[meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers

Sat Jun 28 18:46:25 GMT 2014

Hi all,I am getting fed up with the arguments about issues that we have already decided on.The meetings have clearly decided that;       1. We need to have working groups of a manageable size. This has been set up.        2. The object of what we are doing is to get a well attended well organised             public meeting in September at which hopefully the organisation will be             set up by voting in officers, starting to agree a constitution etc. This is has been             agreed.Lets start listening to each other.Kaktus Leach              

Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 18:24:20 +0100
From: info at technologikal.com
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Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers

Exactly my thoughts on the matter, put quite succinctly.

On 28 June 2014 17:50, Rob Stephens <rob.stephens2 at btinternet.com> wrote:

Hi all
I will be attending the smaller meeting on the 2 July.

Looking a the flow of emails over the last few days I agree that all minutes of all meetings should be published in a variety of formats and be accessible to the community.
However I think In order for this project to move forward and ultimately be successful I believe that a smaller management committee needs to be formed of up to 10 people. Public meetings  of around 20-30 people are brilliant for generating ideas and enthusiasm and these should continue on a regular basis. But public meetings with a semi transient membership will not ultimately achieve the objects of the community and there is a danger that if we continue without clear direction the council will just what it pleases and we won't be ready to stop them.

I do think the members of a management committee need to be elected at an open public meeting to make sure this a democratically elected body. Ultimately the committee will derive it's legitimacy from the community and should report on a regular basis on what it is doing.

Look forward to continuing this discussion further.
Best wishesRob

On 28 Jun 2014, at 13:10, David Garlovsky <david at solar-active.com> wrote:

Dear All
I left the meeting early for another meeting that was important to me. Not just for not being in attendance for when it was decided to have the meeting on 2nd but also that I do not feel any meeting should be restricted. Any restriction makes it ‘undemocratic' and gets into issues that we already have with the SCC on having secret meetings. I fully do not agree with Kaktus view, yet willing to consider some compromise that I will think about coming up with of course open to  anyone that can think of a compromise. 

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On 28 Jun 2014, at 12:54, kaktusandnome leach <kaktus_nome at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,I propose that the participants should be restricted to the ninewho were accepted at the last meeting, this seems to be themost democratic way of doing things. Some clearly will not
be able to make it so the result will be similar to Moira's proposal.which I think makes sense. Regards,Kaktus

Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:41:13 +0100
From: rhian at eggplanet.co.uk

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From: "Rhiannon Thomas" <rhian at eggplanet.co.uk>
Date: 26 Jun 2014 18:23
Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] Fwd: RE: public meeting organisers

To: "Moira Walker" <moira_walker at hotmail.com>
Cc: 

>From what I can remember, and now that Kate can't make it I think there will be 6 people next week, though I'd recall all the names. I can confirm that I am intending to attend. 
I think your skills will be v. useful at this point. Rhian 
On 26 Jun 2014 17:48, "Moira Walker" <moira_walker at hotmail.com> wrote:

Can we confirm how many people are attending this 'small working group' meeting.  I don't think it will work with more than 6 so I will bow out if there are too many.  I think its really hard to get business done and not just have an (albeit interesting) discussion when there are lots of interested people involved.  I have lots of skills linked to public engagement, consultation (including previous consultation results), funding bids and constitution development which i am happy to throw into the mix when needed.  

thanks!
Moira 

Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:51:50 +0100
From: rhian at eggplanet.co.uk
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Subject: [meersbrook-house] Fwd: RE:  public meeting organisers

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Date: 26 Jun 2014 12:50
Subject: RE: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers

To: "kaktusandnome leach" <kaktus_nome at hotmail.com>
Cc: 

I have booked a couple of tables in the 'small snug' for next Wednesday (in my name). They can turn off the speakers in that part, if we request that when we get there. 
There is a pub quiz starting at 9.30 and there are regulars who use this space, but I said we'd be done by 9, I thought it would help keep us focused! Rhian
On 25 Jun 2014 09:39, "kaktusandnome leach" <kaktus_nome at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,If we are to meet in the White Lion we have to find a corner without musicas I am profoundly deaf and background noise more or less rules me out.Kaktus

Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:35:50 +0100
From: rhian at eggplanet.co.uk
To: laura at b4wd.org.uk
CC: meersbrook-house at email-lists.org

Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers

Hi Laura, That too was my understanding of the purpose of the meeting in the 2nd, but agree that all of Rob's points should be discussed on the 9th.
Happy for you to put the agenda together - thanks for offering. See you in White Lion next week. Rhian
On 19 Jun 2014 21:36, "Laura Holmes" <laura at b4wd.org.uk> wrote:

Hi Rob,

These sound like really important items for discussion at the full steering group meeting on the 9th. My understanding of the meeting on the 2nd is that it is to talk about planning the public meeting in September so that we can make the best use of everyone’s time and gather as much info as possible – so am thinking the agenda will be limited to things like, aims of the public meeting and the activities and discussions that are needed to allow everyone to have their say.

Cheers,

Laura.

From: Rob Stephens [mailto:rob.stephens2 at btinternet.com] 

Sent: 19 June 2014 21:22
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Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers

Hi

Happy to meet in the pub on this occasion, provided we aren't excluding anyone.

Can I suggest a couple of items for the agenda?

1. Focus of the group? Is it to secure a useable and accessible community building for the whole community, situated in the park or is it about about preserving an old building? It maybe feasible to do both?

2. Structure of the group - there needs to be a management/executive committee formed with functions and decision making  powers delegated to it by the steering committee. It's not feasible to manage this through group meetings of 20-25 people.

3. Anyone taking on a role I.e chairing the steering committee should be elected to that role by the rest of the group.

Thanks
Rob

On 19 Jun 2014, at 20:56, "Laura Holmes" <laura at b4wd.org.uk> wrote:

Happy to go with Moira’s suggestion of meeting in the White Lion (just to avoid confusion, this is the meeting of the smaller working group on Weds 2nd July, not the full steering group meeting on the 9th).

Would be willing to put an agenda together and chair this meeting if everyone else who has volunteered for this group is happy for me to do so?

Cheers,
Laura

From: kaktusandnome leach [mailto:kaktus_nome at hotmail.com] 

Sent: 19 June 2014 12:25
To: Laura Holmes
Subject: RE: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers

I think a change of venue is a great idea, it gets a bit hectic at the pavilion.
Any suggestions about a venue?  We could meet at the walled garden

as it is certainly peaceful there and there is a choice of being indoors or

outdoors. I would also be happy in a pub.
Kaktus

> From: laura at b4wd.org.uk

> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:17:41 +0100
> To: meersbrook-house at email-lists...org

> Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Agree that our small working group meeting on the 2nd would be fine to take place in the pub, with the full steering group meeting taking place in the Pavilion as normal on the 9th.

> 
> Cheers,
> Laura
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> On 19 Jun 2014, at 10:53, Chris <chris at meersbrook.net> wrote:

> 
> > Hi
> > 
> > On Thu 19-Jun-2014 at 10:44:51AM +0100, David Garlovsky wrote:
> >> 
> >> If skills list was created last night, who do I contact to add my
> >> skills to the list?

> > 
> > It wasn't.
> > 
> >> What is date of next meeting?
> > 
> > There is a small meeting to discuss the public meeting agenda in two
> > weeks time, Wednesday 2nd July, and then the next full committee meeting

> > is on Wednesday 9th July, 7:30pm in the Pavilion.
> > 
> > All the best
> > 
> > Chris
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