[meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers

Sat Jun 28 17:24:20 GMT 2014

Exactly my thoughts on the matter, put quite succinctly.

On 28 June 2014 17:50, Rob Stephens <rob.stephens2 at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I will be attending the smaller meeting on the 2 July.
>
> Looking a the flow of emails over the last few days I agree that all
> minutes of all meetings should be published in a variety of formats and be
> accessible to the community.
>
> However I think In order for this project to move forward and ultimately
> be successful I believe that a smaller management committee needs to be
> formed of up to 10 people. Public meetings  of around 20-30 people are
> brilliant for generating ideas and enthusiasm and these should continue on
> a regular basis. But public meetings with a semi transient membership will
> not ultimately achieve the objects of the community and there is a danger
> that if we continue without clear direction the council will just what it
> pleases and we won't be ready to stop them.
>
> I do think the members of a management committee need to be elected at an
> open public meeting to make sure this a democratically elected body.
> Ultimately the committee will derive it's legitimacy from the community and
> should report on a regular basis on what it is doing.
>
> Look forward to continuing this discussion further.
>
> Best wishes
> Rob
>
>
> On 28 Jun 2014, at 13:10, David Garlovsky <david at solar-active.com> wrote:
>
> Dear All
>
> I left the meeting early for another meeting that was important to me. Not
> just for not being in attendance for when it was decided to have the
> meeting on 2nd but also that I do not feel any meeting should be
> restricted. Any restriction makes it 'undemocratic' and gets into issues
> that we already have with the SCC on having secret meetings. I fully do not
> agree with Kaktus view, yet willing to consider some compromise that I will
> think about coming up with of course open to  anyone that can think of a
> compromise.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> David
>
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> On 28 Jun 2014, at 12:54, kaktusandnome leach <kaktus_nome at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I propose that the participants should be restricted to the nine
> who were accepted at the last meeting, this seems to be the
> most democratic way of doing things. Some clearly will not
> be able to make it so the result will be similar to Moira's proposal.
> which I think makes sense.
> Regards,
> Kaktus
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:41:13 +0100
> From: rhian at eggplanet.co.uk
> To: meersbrook-house at email-lists.org
> Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Rhiannon Thomas" <rhian at eggplanet.co.uk>
> Date: 26 Jun 2014 18:23
> Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] Fwd: RE: public meeting organisers
> To: "Moira Walker" <moira_walker at hotmail.com>
> Cc:
>
> From what I can remember, and now that Kate can't make it I think there
> will be 6 people next week, though I'd recall all the names. I can confirm
> that I am intending to attend.
>
> I think your skills will be v. useful at this point.
>
> Rhian
> On 26 Jun 2014 17:48, "Moira Walker" <moira_walker at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can we confirm how many people are attending this 'small working group'
> meeting.  I don't think it will work with more than 6 so I will bow out if
> there are too many.  I think its really hard to get business done and
> not just have an (albeit interesting) discussion when there are lots of
> interested people involved.  I have lots of skills linked to public
> engagement, consultation (including previous consultation results), funding
> bids and constitution development which i am happy to throw into the mix
> when needed.
> thanks!
> Moira
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:51:50 +0100
> From: rhian at eggplanet.co.uk
> To: meersbrook-house at email-lists.org
> Subject: [meersbrook-house] Fwd: RE: public meeting organisers
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Rhiannon Thomas" <rhian at eggplanet.co.uk>
> Date: 26 Jun 2014 12:50
> Subject: RE: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers
> To: "kaktusandnome leach" <kaktus_nome at hotmail.com>
> Cc:
>
> I have booked a couple of tables in the 'small snug' for next Wednesday
> (in my name). They can turn off the speakers in that part, if we request
> that when we get there.
>
> There is a pub quiz starting at 9.30 and there are regulars who use this
> space, but I said we'd be done by 9, I thought it would help keep us
> focused!
>
> Rhian
> On 25 Jun 2014 09:39, "kaktusandnome leach" <kaktus_nome at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> If we are to meet in the White Lion we have to find a corner without music
> as I am profoundly deaf and background noise more or less rules me out.
> Kaktus
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:35:50 +0100
> From: rhian at eggplanet.co.uk
> To: laura at b4wd.org.uk
> CC: meersbrook-house at email-lists.org
> Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers
>
> Hi Laura,
>
> That too was my understanding of the purpose of the meeting in the 2nd,
> but agree that all of Rob's points should be discussed on the 9th.
>
> Happy for you to put the agenda together - thanks for offering.
>
> See you in White Lion next week.
>
> Rhian
> On 19 Jun 2014 21:36, "Laura Holmes" <laura at b4wd.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> These sound like really important items for discussion at the full
> steering group meeting on the 9th. My understanding of the meeting on the
> 2nd is that it is to talk about planning the public meeting in September
> so that we can make the best use of everyone's time and gather as much info
> as possible - so am thinking the agenda will be limited to things like,
> aims of the public meeting and the activities and discussions that are
> needed to allow everyone to have their say.
>
> Cheers,
> Laura.
>
> *From:* Rob Stephens [mailto:rob.stephens2 at btinternet.com]
> *Sent:* 19 June 2014 21:22
> *To:* laura at b4wd.org.uk
> *Cc:* <meersbrook-house at email-lists.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers
>
> Hi
>
> Happy to meet in the pub on this occasion, provided we aren't excluding
> anyone.
>
> Can I suggest a couple of items for the agenda?
> 1. Focus of the group? Is it to secure a useable and accessible community
> building for the whole community, situated in the park or is it about about
> preserving an old building? It maybe feasible to do both?
> 2. Structure of the group - there needs to be a management/executive
> committee formed with functions and decision making  powers delegated to it
> by the steering committee. It's not feasible to manage this through group
> meetings of 20-25 people.
> 3. Anyone taking on a role I.e chairing the steering committee should be
> elected to that role by the rest of the group.
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
> On 19 Jun 2014, at 20:56, "Laura Holmes" <laura at b4wd.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Happy to go with Moira's suggestion of meeting in the White Lion (just to
> avoid confusion, this is the meeting of the smaller working group on Weds 2
> nd July, not the full steering group meeting on the 9th).
> Would be willing to put an agenda together and chair this meeting if
> everyone else who has volunteered for this group is happy for me to do so?
> Cheers,
> Laura
>
> *From:* kaktusandnome leach [mailto:kaktus_nome at hotmail.com
> <kaktus_nome at hotmail.com>]
> *Sent:* 19 June 2014 12:25
> *To:* Laura Holmes
> *Subject:* RE: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers
>
> I think a change of venue is a great idea, it gets a bit hectic at the
> pavilion.
> Any suggestions about a venue?  We could meet at the walled garden
> as it is certainly peaceful there and there is a choice of being indoors or
> outdoors. I would also be happy in a pub.
> Kaktus
> > From: laura at b4wd.org.uk
> > Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:17:41 +0100
> > To: meersbrook-house at email-lists...org
> <meersbrook-house at email-lists.org>
> > Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Agree that our small working group meeting on the 2nd would be fine to
> take place in the pub, with the full steering group meeting taking place in
> the Pavilion as normal on the 9th.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Laura
> >
> > ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~
> > Laura Holmes 07736 844109
> > laura at b4wd.org.uk
> > laura at holmesadmin.co.uk
> >
> > On 19 Jun 2014, at 10:53, Chris <chris at meersbrook.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > On Thu 19-Jun-2014 at 10:44:51AM +0100, David Garlovsky wrote:
> > >>
> > >> If skills list was created last night, who do I contact to add my
> > >> skills to the list?
> > >
> > > It wasn't.
> > >
> > >> What is date of next meeting?
> > >
> > > There is a small meeting to discuss the public meeting agenda in two
> > > weeks time, Wednesday 2nd July, and then the next full committee
> meeting
> > > is on Wednesday 9th July, 7:30pm in the Pavilion.
> > >
> > > All the best
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
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