[esocialaction] open doc proposal - Roles and Finance

Tue Sep 13 16:55:23 BST 2005

Ariel wrote:

"I can put the NGO that I work with in Brazil to test the softwares, also, we can make a documentary or something, the issue is that, since the software will be in English, i believe that could be difficult to put the community were we work to do the test since they can´t speak the language, but, people from the staff of the NGO can handle English very well, so maybe them from the staff could work as a tester community (the staff is broad inf social and geographic origins and context). In this case, I could do the training with them."

But isn't this precisely the kind of thing we should be considering in developing the project.  How not to make it anglocentric, how to design software that can be used without having to speak a particular language or perhaps with little or not literacy.  There are examples of participatory video projects and other projects where symbols or recognition of a set of words etc.. can enable participation .. rather than just removing participation to a set of mediators.. ...

Clodagh
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hamithat 
  To: Dearden, Andrew M 
  Cc: esocialaction at email-lists.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [esocialaction] open doc proposal - Roles and Finance

  Well.. I didn´t figure out that the deadline were so near.

  I will focus in the points that seems to be needing more effort.

  About the Tool development / integration
  There is a group in Brazil that is doing and systematic analysis of free software for multimedia production (sound and video). Most of them came from tactical media Brazil. I Believe that almost all software have English versions. I were hoping to contact them to establish some kind of bridge, since they now are related with a major project in the Brazilian government but I don´t know if there will be enough time. If you think it is needed I could call some one from that group to the discussion.

  About Documentary making / testing
  I can put the NGO that I work with in Brazil to test the softwares, also, we can make a documentary or something, the issue is that, since the software will be in English, i believe that could be difficult to put the community were we work to do the test since they can´t speak the language, but, people from the staff of the NGO can handle English very well, so maybe them from the staff could work as a tester community (the staff is broad inf social and geographic origins and context). In this case, I could do the training with them.

  I believe that more than expertise an project might need "institutional support", and I wish I could help with this, the best I can is to act through the NGO were I´m working as Projects Director.

  So, you people know much better than me how to elaborate an project, I´m interested in help in any way I can, anything you people think that I could be helpful, please contact me.

  Ariel

  On 9/13/05, Dearden, Andrew M <A.M.Dearden at shu.ac.uk> wrote:

    Hi All

    I'm all in favour of doing things on teh wiki where possible, but I have found in the past that writing proposals by wiki is very
    difficult. It is less clear who is going to make sure the proposal actually gets finished and submitted on time. My understanding
    is that we are hoping that Yuwei & Marlene will submit the outline proposal next week (20th)

    We have very little time left.

    I would like to suggest the following allocation of people to roles. 

    Needs analysis:
    Andy (myself), Ann Light, David Wilcox -

    It would help to have someone from outside the UK as part of this work. I have a couple of possible contacts (David Casacuberta in
    Barcelona, Fiorella de Cindio in Milan) who might be interested. If no-one on the list from outside the UK wants to sign up, I
    will contact one or both of them. 

    Tool development / integration
    Tactical tech? Giles Lane (proboscis)?, Cinelera?, Soenke Zehle?
    We don't have anyone listed as yet as specifically interested in co-ordinating the development work. This is critical. Are any of
    the people listed here interested in taking this on board (obviously at a very provisional level right now).

    The point here is that the initial proposal should make some suggestion as to an approximate budget for the project. We may be 
    doing back of the envelope stuff here, but we should have an idea of the kind of amounts we are talkign about, and the time scale.

    Documentary making / testing
    I still think we need someone to offer the specific skills in community documentary making - Ginny at Voluntary Arts may be able 
    to help. Who else would be interested from outside the UK?

    Training workshops:
    Leonie Ramondt (ultralab) ?
    Steve Thompson
    Again, a non-UK / non English speaking line would be helpful.

    Evaluation: 
    Ann Light, Steve Thompson, Andy Dearden, Yuwei Lin & Marleen

    Assuming that we want this to be a 3 year project, what kinds of finance would people be looking for.

    For my own place I'd be thinking about about 220 - 250K Euros - this would employ a research assistant for 3 years, plus some 
    money to cover my time (about 1 day per week), plus some money for travel.

    Andy

    Andy Dearden
    Communications & Computing Research Centre
    ACES
    Harmer Building
    Sheffield Hallam University 
    Sheffield
    S1 1WB
    UK

    email: a.m.dearden at shu.ac.uk
    Tel: 0114 225 2916
    Fax: 0114 225 3161

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: esocialaction-bounces at email-lists.org
    > [mailto:esocialaction-bounces at email-lists.org] On Behalf Of Yuwei Lin
    > Sent: 12 September 2005 16:19
    > To: esocialaction at email-lists.org
    > Subject: Re: [esocialaction] open documentary project - draft proposal
    >
    >
    > Hi All,
    >
    > Thanks for showing your interest in the project. 
    >
    > I'm trying to narrow down the project to a more doable level. It is
    > possible that we will cooperate with TacticalTech
    > (http://www.tacticaltech.org ) and incorporate their practical
    > activities
    > with the research activities. To make this incorporation
    > easier, I have
    > listed three main research duties essential in this project:
    > 1) mapping 
    > user requirements/needs for new media toolset (need assessment); 2)
    > facilitating training workshop (teaching users how to use the
    > new media
    > toolset in a local level); 3) evaluation. Can all interested 
    > people go
    > to the wiki page and put your name and affiliation in the
    > category you
    > wish to participate? Cheers.
    >
    > /yuwei
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