[meersbrook-house] meersbrook-house Digest, Vol 1, Issue 23

Joyce M Bullivant 1duckweed at live.co.uk
Sat Jun 28 17:32:33 GMT 2014 

I understand where you are coming from but I am concerned that people who have a special skill may then be left out when you may need them. Simpler solution would be to make specific focus groups & 1 person from that subgroup also be in exec committee. Focus groups can then even co-opt/invite people. That way could even make exec committee smaller.    

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>    1. Re: public meeting organisers (Anthony Ashton)
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> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 18:24:20 +0100
> From: Anthony Ashton <info at technologikal.com>
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> Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers
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> Exactly my thoughts on the matter, put quite succinctly.
> 
> 
> On 28 June 2014 17:50, Rob Stephens <rob.stephens2 at btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all
> >
> > I will be attending the smaller meeting on the 2 July.
> >
> > Looking a the flow of emails over the last few days I agree that all
> > minutes of all meetings should be published in a variety of formats and be
> > accessible to the community.
> >
> > However I think In order for this project to move forward and ultimately
> > be successful I believe that a smaller management committee needs to be
> > formed of up to 10 people. Public meetings  of around 20-30 people are
> > brilliant for generating ideas and enthusiasm and these should continue on
> > a regular basis. But public meetings with a semi transient membership will
> > not ultimately achieve the objects of the community and there is a danger
> > that if we continue without clear direction the council will just what it
> > pleases and we won't be ready to stop them.
> >
> > I do think the members of a management committee need to be elected at an
> > open public meeting to make sure this a democratically elected body.
> > Ultimately the committee will derive it's legitimacy from the community and
> > should report on a regular basis on what it is doing.
> >
> > Look forward to continuing this discussion further.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > On 28 Jun 2014, at 13:10, David Garlovsky <david at solar-active.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear All
> >
> > I left the meeting early for another meeting that was important to me. Not
> > just for not being in attendance for when it was decided to have the
> > meeting on 2nd but also that I do not feel any meeting should be
> > restricted. Any restriction makes it 'undemocratic' and gets into issues
> > that we already have with the SCC on having secret meetings. I fully do not
> > agree with Kaktus view, yet willing to consider some compromise that I will
> > think about coming up with of course open to  anyone that can think of a
> > compromise.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > David
> >
> > David Garlovsky
> > david at solar-active.com
> >
> > "It's not  what you look at that matters, it's what you see." Henry David
> > Thoreau
> >
> > "Success is liking yourself, liking what you do and liking how you do it"
> > - Maya Angelou
> >
> >
> > Schools & Homes Energy Education Project
> > 84 Upper Valley Road
> > Sheffield S8 9HE
> > +44 (0)114 2587639
> > 07968844891
> >
> > On 28 Jun 2014, at 12:54, kaktusandnome leach <kaktus_nome at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I propose that the participants should be restricted to the nine
> > who were accepted at the last meeting, this seems to be the
> > most democratic way of doing things. Some clearly will not
> > be able to make it so the result will be similar to Moira's proposal.
> > which I think makes sense.
> > Regards,
> > Kaktus
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:41:13 +0100
> > From: rhian at eggplanet.co.uk
> > To: meersbrook-house at email-lists.org
> > Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "Rhiannon Thomas" <rhian at eggplanet.co.uk>
> > Date: 26 Jun 2014 18:23
> > Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] Fwd: RE: public meeting organisers
> > To: "Moira Walker" <moira_walker at hotmail.com>
> > Cc:
> >
> > From what I can remember, and now that Kate can't make it I think there
> > will be 6 people next week, though I'd recall all the names. I can confirm
> > that I am intending to attend.
> >
> > I think your skills will be v. useful at this point.
> >
> > Rhian
> > On 26 Jun 2014 17:48, "Moira Walker" <moira_walker at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Can we confirm how many people are attending this 'small working group'
> > meeting.  I don't think it will work with more than 6 so I will bow out if
> > there are too many.  I think its really hard to get business done and
> > not just have an (albeit interesting) discussion when there are lots of
> > interested people involved.  I have lots of skills linked to public
> > engagement, consultation (including previous consultation results), funding
> > bids and constitution development which i am happy to throw into the mix
> > when needed.
> > thanks!
> > Moira
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:51:50 +0100
> > From: rhian at eggplanet.co.uk
> > To: meersbrook-house at email-lists.org
> > Subject: [meersbrook-house] Fwd: RE: public meeting organisers
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "Rhiannon Thomas" <rhian at eggplanet.co.uk>
> > Date: 26 Jun 2014 12:50
> > Subject: RE: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers
> > To: "kaktusandnome leach" <kaktus_nome at hotmail.com>
> > Cc:
> >
> > I have booked a couple of tables in the 'small snug' for next Wednesday
> > (in my name). They can turn off the speakers in that part, if we request
> > that when we get there.
> >
> > There is a pub quiz starting at 9.30 and there are regulars who use this
> > space, but I said we'd be done by 9, I thought it would help keep us
> > focused!
> >
> > Rhian
> > On 25 Jun 2014 09:39, "kaktusandnome leach" <kaktus_nome at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > If we are to meet in the White Lion we have to find a corner without music
> > as I am profoundly deaf and background noise more or less rules me out.
> > Kaktus
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:35:50 +0100
> > From: rhian at eggplanet.co.uk
> > To: laura at b4wd.org.uk
> > CC: meersbrook-house at email-lists.org
> > Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers
> >
> > Hi Laura,
> >
> > That too was my understanding of the purpose of the meeting in the 2nd,
> > but agree that all of Rob's points should be discussed on the 9th.
> >
> > Happy for you to put the agenda together - thanks for offering.
> >
> > See you in White Lion next week.
> >
> > Rhian
> > On 19 Jun 2014 21:36, "Laura Holmes" <laura at b4wd.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > These sound like really important items for discussion at the full
> > steering group meeting on the 9th. My understanding of the meeting on the
> > 2nd is that it is to talk about planning the public meeting in September
> > so that we can make the best use of everyone's time and gather as much info
> > as possible - so am thinking the agenda will be limited to things like,
> > aims of the public meeting and the activities and discussions that are
> > needed to allow everyone to have their say.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Laura.
> >
> > *From:* Rob Stephens [mailto:rob.stephens2 at btinternet.com]
> > *Sent:* 19 June 2014 21:22
> > *To:* laura at b4wd.org.uk
> > *Cc:* <meersbrook-house at email-lists.org>
> > *Subject:* Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Happy to meet in the pub on this occasion, provided we aren't excluding
> > anyone.
> >
> > Can I suggest a couple of items for the agenda?
> > 1. Focus of the group? Is it to secure a useable and accessible community
> > building for the whole community, situated in the park or is it about about
> > preserving an old building? It maybe feasible to do both?
> > 2. Structure of the group - there needs to be a management/executive
> > committee formed with functions and decision making  powers delegated to it
> > by the steering committee. It's not feasible to manage this through group
> > meetings of 20-25 people.
> > 3. Anyone taking on a role I.e chairing the steering committee should be
> > elected to that role by the rest of the group.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rob
> >
> > On 19 Jun 2014, at 20:56, "Laura Holmes" <laura at b4wd.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Happy to go with Moira's suggestion of meeting in the White Lion (just to
> > avoid confusion, this is the meeting of the smaller working group on Weds 2
> > nd July, not the full steering group meeting on the 9th).
> > Would be willing to put an agenda together and chair this meeting if
> > everyone else who has volunteered for this group is happy for me to do so?
> > Cheers,
> > Laura
> >
> > *From:* kaktusandnome leach [mailto:kaktus_nome at hotmail.com
> > <kaktus_nome at hotmail.com>]
> > *Sent:* 19 June 2014 12:25
> > *To:* Laura Holmes
> > *Subject:* RE: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers
> >
> > I think a change of venue is a great idea, it gets a bit hectic at the
> > pavilion.
> > Any suggestions about a venue?  We could meet at the walled garden
> > as it is certainly peaceful there and there is a choice of being indoors or
> > outdoors. I would also be happy in a pub.
> > Kaktus
> > > From: laura at b4wd.org.uk
> > > Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:17:41 +0100
> > > To: meersbrook-house at email-lists...org
> > <meersbrook-house at email-lists.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Agree that our small working group meeting on the 2nd would be fine to
> > take place in the pub, with the full steering group meeting taking place in
> > the Pavilion as normal on the 9th.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Laura
> > >
> > > ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~
> > > Laura Holmes 07736 844109
> > > laura at b4wd.org.uk
> > > laura at holmesadmin.co.uk
> > >
> > > On 19 Jun 2014, at 10:53, Chris <chris at meersbrook.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > On Thu 19-Jun-2014 at 10:44:51AM +0100, David Garlovsky wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> If skills list was created last night, who do I contact to add my
> > > >> skills to the list?
> > > >
> > > > It wasn't.
> > > >
> > > >> What is date of next meeting?
> > > >
> > > > There is a small meeting to discuss the public meeting agenda in two
> > > > weeks time, Wednesday 2nd July, and then the next full committee
> > meeting
> > > > is on Wednesday 9th July, 7:30pm in the Pavilion.
> > > >
> > > > All the best
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
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