Looks like someone has messed up: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/index.php3?body=../../../../../../usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf Got a worrying reply back from sourceforge, basically saying "we don't care" Neil -- A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? gpg key - http://www.halon.org.uk/pubkey.txt ; the.earth.li B345BDD3