[OccupySheffield] [OccupySheffieldPrivate] FW: Notice of Court Proceedings and Hearing on Thursday 26th January

Fri Jan 13 14:21:14 GMT 2012

Hi Joe
I saw Carl in the Cathedral this morning and asked him how it would affect the situation if we did decide to move nearer to the bank - he looked confused and said that if he said that would be ok he would be perceived as inviting us to that space. He also said , as he said to Dave, that they were promised a proposal from us by last Monday for their chapter meeting which didn't happen and that's why they decided to take court action yesterday.
So I think it's unclear whether Dave's proposal would alter what is happening now but I would think it's possible it would and it's probably best to present them with that proposal. I can't be at GA tonight but if I was I would withdraw the opposition I expressed when we discussed it a few days ago.
Jeanx

From: Joe <joe at occupysheffield.org.uk>
To: "tom at occupysheffield.org.uk" <tom at occupysheffield.org.uk>; Occupy Sheffield <info at occupysheffield.org.uk>; Occupy Sheffield List <occupysheffield at email-lists.org> 
Sent: Friday, 13 January 2012, 13:11
Subject: Re: [OccupySheffieldPrivate] [OccupySheffield] FW: Notice of Court Proceedings and Hearing on Thursday 26th January

Ey up,
Removing excess tents has passed through consensus and has been happening. We had 25 tents, which was reduced to 20 recently (last week). Broken/abandoned/excess storage tents that were no longer needed on site were cleared up to the Citadel for drying/sorting. 

A couple of days ago there was consensus to further reduce the number of tents down to 10-15. This hasn't happened yet for a couple of reasons:

1) We will probably need extra sleeping space for the Conference next weekend. We could leave tents up for now, or take them down for a week and put them up as needed(?)
2) People who own the tents need to discuss what they want to do with them. There is a labelled plan on site of the tents that are left.

Separate to this is the proposal to shuffle the camp down towards LloydsTSB, which was discussed and didn't get consensus. Most people thought it was doable. Reservations were that it was still on Cathedral land, that currently it is a good display next to the tram stop which gets lots of people standing there anyway, that it would be moving closer to the street drinkers' bench, so pushing their territory again. I'd be interested to know what the Cathedral thought of it as an idea now. I got the impression they were stone-walling all our negotiations/suggestions, and that they had dismissed this idea before.

Solidarity and hope,

Joe

On 13 January 2012 12:49, tom at occupysheffield.org.uk <tom at occupysheffield.org.uk> wrote:

I think that's a good suggestion ... c u at GA
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>From: "Dave Havard" <deacondave777 at gmail.com>
>Date: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 11:44 am
>Subject: [OccupySheffield] FW: [OccupySheffieldPrivate] Notice of Court Proceedings and Hearing on Thursday 26th January
>To: "Occupy Sheffield" <info at occupysheffield.org.uk>, "Occupy Sheffield List" <occupysheffield at email-lists.org>
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>Hi all,
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>I met Carl today and he re-iterated that they were expecting a concrete
>proposal from us and did not get it.  They will not meet with us again
>until we offer some kind of proposal.  He did not find Friday's meeting
>with Joel constructive.  They would like to negotiate a way out and not go
>to court.
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>Therefore can I offer a :
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>PROPOSAL  for tonight's GA that we downsize the camp on Monday 23 Jan and
>move it to the far corner of the Cathedral forecourt nearest to Lloyds TSB
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>and that we immediately inform the dean and chapter of that decision in
>writing.
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>In peace and hope,
>Deacon Dave
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>On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Nicole Occupy <nicole_jewitt at hotmail.com>wrote:
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>> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:08:40 +0000
>> From: Carl.Hutton at sheffield-cathedral.org.uk
>> To: info at occupysheffield.org.uk
>> Subject: [OccupySheffieldPrivate] Notice of Court Proceedings and Hearing
>> on Thursday 26th January
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>> Dear Occupy Sheffield
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>> We attach an electronic copy of the Court Proceedings and Notice of
>> Hearing for your convenience. Copies of the legal documents have been
>> displayed on the site by way of service upon Occupy Sheffield as a whole.
>> In addition, certain individuals (where known) have been named in the court
>> papers, and a personal copy is available from the Robinson Room in the
>> Cathedral (ie the Cathedral reception)  during weekday business hours.
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>> Since our meeting on Friday 6 January, the Cathedral has been hoping to
>> receive a proposal from you which might lead to a mutually acceptable
>> resolution to this situation, as you proposed during that meeting. Given
>> that we have not received  an acceptable  proposal and that you have not
>> vacated and cleared the Cathedral site as requested in a letter dated
>> Thursday 5th January, and after many weeks of requesting you to move on,
>> with regret we have had to begin the legal process.
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>> Yours sincerely
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>> * *
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>> *Carl Hutton*
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>> *General  Manager* 
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>> The Cathedral Church of St Peter and St Paul
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>> Church Street
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>> Sheffield
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>> S1 1HA
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