[OccupyComms] [OccupyLondon] 5th Nov Re:

Thu Sep 26 16:00:06 GMT 2013

Hi John

A good point and one that the white symbol could be directed towards. Any
ideas everyone else ?

Will discuss / ask around.

Cheers

Mark

On 26 September 2013 15:30, John Elliott <topman52001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Friends in Anon attending the 5th Nov have asked if you guys have anything
> by way of a document highlighting conflict control in the presence of large
> gatherings.
>
> They themselves know some people get out of control and would like some
> assistance in making the 5th Nov a safe and memorable date if anyone can
> help
>
> Respect
>
> t0p
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:54 PM, <marknbarrett at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>> PS
>>
>> Ironically for Nov 5th re blank white flags / banner idea - in London
>> some of us used plain white placards and banners as part of a campaign
>> against restriction of protest around the Houses of Parliament in 2005-2007
>> (under the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act individual and collective
>> peaceful political self-expression within 1KM of Westminster was
>> criminalised, unless you got a licence to protest from the police).
>>
>> We campaigned using blank white placards because the police would arrest
>> us if we wrote anything on them, which made everything really surreal and
>> it definitely inspired people.
>>
>> I always thought the blank placard was also a really potent symbol for a
>> new society, and then later white flags and all kinds of surrender (while
>> still standing up for justice) got suggested which also made lots of sense
>> and then, more recently i read the Roman Senator quote (about the white
>> armbands and slavery) and the whole idea it made even more sense.
>>
>> Incidentally, if there is any interest the URL peopleincommon.org(ignore the front page of it which is a dead project) which was used for
>> the same campaign in Parliament Square is totally up for grabs for Nov 5th
>> if anyone likes the name and wishes to utilise it. the group (PIC) is
>> defunct so no problem with using it.
>>
>> It's a pretty good name for what we are about imho, and you can see what
>> we used it for politically, in the UK context from 2005-including the blank
>> placard which is featured at
>> http://www.peopleincommon.org/archive/archive.htm
>>
>> And http://www.peopleincommon.org/archive/C421.html
>>
>> Let me know if anyone wants to take it and run a bit with it
>>
>> Cheers and Salaams
>>
>> Mark
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: * marknbarrett at googlemail.com
>> *Date: *Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:52:46 +0000
>> *To: *rachel mariner<rachelmariner at gmail.com>; Chris Keene<
>> ckeene107 at gmail.com>
>> *ReplyTo: * marknbarrett at googlemail.com
>> *Cc: *occupylondon<occupylondon at lists.riseup.net>; <
>> occupycomms at email-lists.org><occupycomms at email-lists.org>;
>> rdwg at googlegroups.com<rdwg at googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [OccupyComms] Cambridge / Norwich Occupiers ?
>>
>> Cheers for info on this everyone who has kindly replied, both off list
>> and on.
>>
>> And especially to Rachel for posting the Les Mis poem and about the white
>> flag / armband idea for Nov 5th. I don't know what you mean about not being
>> a proper activist though - what's one of those ? To sort the world out, all
>> the human diversity (and however active, or not we have been in the past),
>> and all the different thoughts, ideas and talents we bring to the table are
>> and will be needed. We all need to be active, and say / do our piece!
>>
>> Peace and love
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: * rachel mariner <rachelmariner at gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:33:06 +0100
>> *To: *Mark Barrett<marknbarrett at googlemail.com>; Chris Keene<
>> ckeene107 at gmail.com>
>> *Cc: *occupylondon<occupylondon at lists.riseup.net>; <
>> occupycomms at email-lists.org><occupycomms at email-lists.org>;
>> rdwg at googlegroups.com<rdwg at googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [OccupyComms] Cambridge / Norwich Occupiers ?
>>
>> Hi all - we do have a few people and a Facebook group :
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/camocc/
>>
>> I would LOVE to get together, meet up and plan  . . .
>>
>> I don't think the Norwich Occupy group is active anymore but Chris Keene
>> is a great activist who went with me to Durham to meet with the Dean there
>> about Winter Carnival. He is a peach and he is cc'd as well.
>>
>> What I don't have handy is a connection to student activists. they may
>> all have become economics or law majors and are gunning for the 1%
>>
>> The poem is actually the epilogue of Les Mis  - the song Do You Hear The
>> People Sing - but the lyrics at the end are different:
>>
>> Do you hear the people sing?
>> Lost in the valley of the night
>> It is the music of a people who are climbing to the light
>> For the wretched of the earth
>> There is a flame that never dies
>> Even the darkest nights will end and the sun will rise
>>
>> I love the white flag idea because it captures the climbing toward the
>> light. I also like the slight dissonance of a white flag - associated with
>> surrender - marched forward. Because the only way to bring peace is to
>> bring peace. Is to not fight. So I loved it. But I was scared to write to
>> everyone about it, Mark, when you suggested because I am not a proper
>> activist, etc.  There it is now.
>>
>> With love and thanks for all of you!
>>
>> Rachel
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Mark Barrett <
>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A comrade from Manchester who is moving to Cambridge has asked me if
>>> there is an active Occupy group,  or if we know any Occupy supporters there
>>> she can connect with. Also I am thinking of moving, and have the same
>>> question re Norwich.
>>>
>>> Please can anyone advise if they know anyone suitable to make contact
>>> with in either place or any info on local Cambridge / Norwich Occupy groups
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Thanks :)
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
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