<div dir="ltr">Hi John<div><br></div><div>A good point and one that the white symbol could be directed towards. Any ideas everyone else ?</div><div><br></div><div>Will discuss / ask around. </div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div>
<div><br></div><div>Mark</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 September 2013 15:30, John Elliott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:topman52001@gmail.com" target="_blank">topman52001@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi All,<br><br></div>Friends in Anon attending the 5th Nov have asked if you guys have anything by way of a document highlighting conflict control in the presence of large gatherings.<br>
<br></div>They themselves know some people get out of control and would like some assistance in making the 5th Nov a safe and memorable date if anyone can help<br><br></div>Respect <br><br></div>t0p <br></div><div class="HOEnZb">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:54 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marknbarrett@googlemail.com" target="_blank">marknbarrett@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<u></u><div>PS <br><br>Ironically for Nov 5th re blank white flags / banner idea - in London some of us used plain white placards and banners as part of a campaign against restriction of protest around the Houses of Parliament in 2005-2007 (under the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act individual and collective peaceful political self-expression within 1KM of Westminster was criminalised, unless you got a licence to protest from the police). <br>
<br>We campaigned using blank white placards because the police would arrest us if we wrote anything on them, which made everything really surreal and it definitely inspired people. <br><br>I always thought the blank placard was also a really potent symbol for a new society, and then later white flags and all kinds of surrender (while still standing up for justice) got suggested which also made lots of sense and then, more recently i read the Roman Senator quote (about the white armbands and slavery) and the whole idea it made even more sense. <br>
<br>Incidentally, if there is any interest the URL <a href="http://peopleincommon.org" target="_blank">peopleincommon.org</a> (ignore the front page of it which is a dead project) which was used for the same campaign in Parliament Square is totally up for grabs for Nov 5th if anyone likes the name and wishes to utilise it. the group (PIC) is defunct so no problem with using it. <br>
<br>It's a pretty good name for what we are about imho, and you can see what we used it for politically, in the UK context from 2005-including the blank placard which is featured at <a href="http://www.peopleincommon.org/archive/archive.htm" target="_blank">http://www.peopleincommon.org/archive/archive.htm</a><br>
<br>And <a href="http://www.peopleincommon.org/archive/C421.html" target="_blank">http://www.peopleincommon.org/archive/C421.html</a> <br><br>Let me know if anyone wants to take it and run a bit with it<br><br>Cheers and Salaams <br>
<br>Mark<br><div>Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone</div><hr><div><b>From: </b> <a href="mailto:marknbarrett@googlemail.com" target="_blank">marknbarrett@googlemail.com</a>
</div><div><b>Date: </b>Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:52:46 +0000</div><div><b>To: </b>rachel mariner<<a href="mailto:rachelmariner@gmail.com" target="_blank">rachelmariner@gmail.com</a>>; Chris Keene<<a href="mailto:ckeene107@gmail.com" target="_blank">ckeene107@gmail.com</a>></div>
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</div><div><b>Cc: </b>occupylondon<<a href="mailto:occupylondon@lists.riseup.net" target="_blank">occupylondon@lists.riseup.net</a>>; <<a href="mailto:occupycomms@email-lists.org" target="_blank">occupycomms@email-lists.org</a>><<a href="mailto:occupycomms@email-lists.org" target="_blank">occupycomms@email-lists.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:rdwg@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">rdwg@googlegroups.com</a><<a href="mailto:rdwg@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">rdwg@googlegroups.com</a>></div>
<div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [OccupyComms] Cambridge / Norwich Occupiers ?</div><div><br></div>Cheers for info on this everyone who has kindly replied, both off list and on. <br><br>And especially to Rachel for posting the Les Mis poem and about the white flag / armband idea for Nov 5th. I don't know what you mean about not being a proper activist though - what's one of those ? To sort the world out, all the human diversity (and however active, or not we have been in the past), and all the different thoughts, ideas and talents we bring to the table are and will be needed. We all need to be active, and say / do our piece! <br>
<br>Peace and love<br><br>Mark <br><br> <div>Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone</div><hr><div><b>From: </b> rachel mariner <<a href="mailto:rachelmariner@gmail.com" target="_blank">rachelmariner@gmail.com</a>>
</div><div><b>Date: </b>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:33:06 +0100</div><div><b>To: </b>Mark Barrett<<a href="mailto:marknbarrett@googlemail.com" target="_blank">marknbarrett@googlemail.com</a>>; Chris Keene<<a href="mailto:ckeene107@gmail.com" target="_blank">ckeene107@gmail.com</a>></div>
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<div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [OccupyComms] Cambridge / Norwich Occupiers ?</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi all - we do have a few people and a Facebook group :<div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/camocc/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/camocc/</a><br>
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<div>I would LOVE to get together, meet up and plan . . . </div>
<div><br></div><div>I don't think the Norwich Occupy group is active anymore but Chris Keene is a great activist who went with me to Durham to meet with the Dean there about Winter Carnival. He is a peach and he is cc'd as well. </div>
<div><br></div><div>What I don't have handy is a connection to student activists. they may all have become economics or law majors and are gunning for the 1%</div><div><br></div><div>The poem is actually the epilogue of Les Mis - the song Do You Hear The People Sing - but the lyrics at the end are different: </div>
<div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana">Do you hear the people sing?</span><br style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana">Lost in the valley of the night</span><br style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana">
<span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana">It is the music of a people who are climbing to the light</span><br style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana">For the wretched of the earth</span><br style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana">
<span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana">There is a flame that never dies</span><br style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana">Even the darkest nights will end and the sun will rise</span><br style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana">
</div><div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Verdana">I love the white flag idea because it captures the climbing toward the light. I also like the slight dissonance of a white flag - associated with surrender - marched forward. Because the only way to bring peace is to bring peace. Is to not fight. So I loved it. But I was scared to write to everyone about it, Mark, when you suggested because I am not a proper activist, etc. There it is now. </span></div>
<div><br></div><div>With love and thanks for all of you!</div><div><br></div><div>Rachel </div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Mark Barrett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marknbarrett@googlemail.com" target="_blank">marknbarrett@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">A comrade from Manchester who is moving to Cambridge has asked me if there is an active Occupy group, or if we know any Occupy supporters there she can connect with. Also I am thinking of moving, and have the same question re Norwich. <div>
<div><br></div><div>Please can anyone advise if they know anyone suitable to make contact with in either place or any info on local Cambridge / Norwich Occupy groups ?<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks :) </div><span><font color="#888888"><div>
<br></div><div>Mark</div></font></span></div>
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