[OccupyComms] [17s] [2011movements-fsm discussion] Re: [#globalNOISE] Fwd: 5th Nov white symbol suggestion

marknbarrett at googlemail.com marknbarrett at googlemail.com
Thu Sep 19 15:53:31 GMT 2013


Cheers for this Manuel

Another reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6B9x5aJq0&feature=share

On the 12th of May, 2012, day of the first anniversary of the 15M movement 
in Spain at 12 midnight, after a minute of silence thousand
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Manuel" <manuel at whiteflag.info>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 17:46:09 
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Subject: Re: [17s] [2011movements-fsm discussion] Re: [#globalNOISE] Fwd: 5th Nov white symbol suggestion

Another reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6B9x5aJq0&feature=share
On the 12th of May, 2012, day of the first anniversary of the 15M movement 
in Spain at 12 midnight, after a minute of silence thousands of people 
showed white flags or white scarves and handkerchiefs.

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From: marknbarrett at googlemail.com
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Subject: Re: [17s] [2011movements-fsm discussion] Re: [#globalNOISE] Fwd: 
5th Nov white symbol suggestion

From a London comrade:

'..a global day of disobedience (irrespective of symbols - an absence of any 
insignia would be possibly more potent, human beings, ungarnished) would 
send a very powerful message to the global elites. They in turn will seek to 
exploit it through aggressive policing and agents provocateurs.

Requires thought, careful planning and one unifying message. The more I 
think about it, the one issue, on which all can agree, is concentration of 
power. The 60's call of Power to the People transformed a generation (only 
to be quickly captured by the lure of riches and celebrity).

We've learnt a lot since then. Not a bad slogan.'

Personally I like the white arm-bands Roman slaves idea. It shows we are (a) 
slaves (b) legion and (c) peaceful and determined to change the system, 
starting from scratch again with a fresh white political canvas. Everywhere!

And it can link with / lead to the white flag too :)

Power to the People !

In solidarity

Mark
PS will post at OWS Forum as suggested, cheers :)
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:54:58
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Subject: Re: [17s] [2011movements-fsm discussion] Re: [#globalNOISE] Fwd: 
5th Nov white symbol suggestion

Manuel wrote:

I find the white color ok.

But I humbly insist in using white flag with the meaning of the white flag 
which is stop violence and start talking.

And I insist that this position shall be brought together with the 
understanding that violence is not only war –actual killing and destroying- 
but also threat coming from the simply presence of armed units (each against 
each other) and therefore world disarmament and world unity follows to white 
flag rising.

Under my understanding this is what it is about...and something else is not 
enough.

Best wishes

Manuel

Cheers Manuel :)
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5th Nov white symbol suggestion

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