[OccupyComms] Important News for Liverpool GA

Thu Feb 23 14:22:10 GMT 2012

Also in total agreement Joe, big +1. I'd like to point out also that other
conferences get delayed/rescheduled quite routinely, especially when
they're dealing with current (or in our case, hyper-current) events. I
think all of us here in London feel a little tug on our heartstrings from
St. Paul's in light of what's going on, and our I know personally I
wouldn't be in the right headspace for the conference even if all the
logistics were cleanly worked out.

-MD

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:41 AM, jamie kelsey-fry <lsxcamp at gmail.com>wrote:

> I like your take on that Joe. I would definitely be up for a major
> national conference down here soon, when people are able to organize in
> advance. But agree that if some people are coming then the assemblies will
> be all the better for it.
>
> Keep it lit
>
> jamie
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Joe <joe at occupysheffield.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> I can see both sides to this.
>>
>> Really respect the positivity and desire to make things happen.
>>
>> If the School of Ideas crew and occupiers think they can fit more things
>> in this weekend, (and existing events/speakers are cool with it) and if
>> people can be around this weekend to discuss the problems of our time,
>> propose future steps and work on active projects then go for it!
>>
>> I guess be aware that lots of people would love to be at a UK National
>> Occupy Conference in London, just not this weekend at such short notice.
>> We should be aware of how we "call" these national conferences too. A
>> location is suggested by anyone; that occupation then passes the idea
>> through their General Assembly. If people there want to do it, we should
>> ask the other UK occupations what they think of the proposal. It's a
>> national call out. Get a national temperature check.
>>
>> In this weekend's case I think people will come to London, but not as
>> many as we might have had if we could prepare more. If people at the School
>> of Ideas want to hold assemblies discussing agenda points from the working agenda
>> pad <https://pad.riseup.net/p/Liverpool> then that's great! Go Occupy
>> 2.0! Calling it a UK National Conference might be a bit of a stretch
>> though, depending on who else can make it. Maybe other occupations around
>> the UK who can't make it down can still discuss a national agenda this
>> weekend at their assemblies too.
>>
>> Unstoppable solidarity,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> On 23 February 2012 09:53, jamie kelsey-fry <lsxcamp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> PS Since Tina wrote this, the appeals have been turned down. So, a major
>>> eviction of St Paul's expected at any time followed by a 'deep cleanse'.
>>>  And there are several events at School Of Ideas already booked.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:48 AM, jamie kelsey-fry <lsxcamp at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with Tina on this. There are several events booked at school of
>>>> ideas and little time to make preparations to provide for delegates and to
>>>> provide a cohesive agenda for a national conference.
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Anneruth Strauss <
>>>> anneruth.strauss at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks!
>>>>> dont know whether this is relevant:
>>>>> but here is an all weekend event in Edinburgh that is hanging in
>>>>> midair right now
>>>>> a training workshop in Compassionate Communication
>>>>> as some people had to pull out
>>>>> we need to know tonight whether there are at least 4 more takers to
>>>>> give the go-ahead to tutor tonight.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a unique opportunity, and is not dependant on how much (if any)
>>>>> money you can contribute to your participating, but is only dependant on
>>>>> your heart saying yes to going on a journey for this with other fellow
>>>>> activists.
>>>>>
>>>>> This training course is part of the action outcome of the group that
>>>>> met on Bute beginning of January, and who had consensus that compassionate
>>>>> communication capacities are key to system change success for Occupy local
>>>>> and global... and it was decided to give activists training opportunity in
>>>>> NVC as a much appraised form of peace and power-with tool , creating the
>>>>> enabling conditions for win win situations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Course has become part of wider wee project linking also in with love
>>>>> economy practises.
>>>>>
>>>>> let  me know quickly if you would be free to consider participation,
>>>>> please ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> You can also view the wider project website (inspiring work n progress
>>>>> !) here:
>>>>> http://occupycompassionatecommunication.weebly.com/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> xx
>>>>> Anneruth (Ruth)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:12 PM, tina bakolitsa <
>>>>> tina.bakolitsa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> PS. Please also note this weekend's schedule for School of Ideas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://schoolofideas.org.uk/events/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, speakers and events have been booked far in advance and would
>>>>>> not be easy to reschedule.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tina
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:56 PM, tina bakolitsa <
>>>>>> tina.bakolitsa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To all those making statements about St Paul's hosting the national
>>>>>>> occupy meeting this weekend:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please be aware that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (a) following this morning's appeal dismissals we may not have
>>>>>>> access to the site (there are rumours circulating it may be cordoned off
>>>>>>> for "deep cleaning") and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (b) if it is available, there are other events that take precedence
>>>>>>> over the national occupy meeting, as they have been booked earlier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One such example is a panel discussion to be held by various
>>>>>>> academics on the subject of Greece and the second bailout.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have started receiving e-mails from other occupations regarding
>>>>>>> the status of this month's national assembly. I don't know how many people
>>>>>>> have already either bought tickets to travel to Liverpool or are
>>>>>>> contemplating traveling to London, how many have spent time and energy
>>>>>>> thinking about the agenda etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I would like to request is that in the future, more
>>>>>>> responsibility is shown and consideration given towards everyone's time and
>>>>>>> resources by the people volunteering to hold and organise these meetings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tina
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Alma Segundo <
>>>>>>> alma.segundo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK! Occupy Liverpool has decided they won't hold the national
>>>>>>>> conference this weekend and that it should be moved to London, School of
>>>>>>>> Ideas.
>>>>>>>> Some people in London think it is too soon to prepare in 2 days,
>>>>>>>> some others think it might be pulled...
>>>>>>>> So?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22 February 2012 18:57, o.sahal at gmail.com <o.sahal at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You got the message right St Paul should have NGA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my HTC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Alma Segundo" <alma.segundo at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "o.sahal at gmail.com" <o.sahal at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Important News for Liverpool GA
>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 3:59 pm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Great idea!
>>>>>>>>> Greg's number: 07932762587
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 22 February 2012 15:30, o.sahal at gmail.com <o.sahal at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>> Good news I'll put it to the group tonight. I imagine they'll go
>>>>>>>>>> for that option with the building. But they need to make that decision. Can
>>>>>>>>>> I have the number for this guy to talk to him, he may want to attend
>>>>>>>>>> today's GA as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards Omar.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my HTC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Alma Segundo" <alma.segundo at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Omar Sahal" <o.sahal at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Important News for Liverpool GA
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 3:16 pm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey Omar,
>>>>>>>>>> How are you?
>>>>>>>>>>  I finally got good news for you.
>>>>>>>>>> Greg who is an activist/artist based in Liverpool for the 5 last
>>>>>>>>>> years, has been contacted by Symon from Occupy Birmingham and he has agreed
>>>>>>>>>> to give us a building to accommodate people and hold the meetings during
>>>>>>>>>> the national conference. This is building has wifi access and presents the
>>>>>>>>>> security we need to work together.
>>>>>>>>>>   So, I am sending the options at the moment so you are full
>>>>>>>>>> informed to make a decision in the GA tonight:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Does Occupy Liverpool wants to hold the national conference
>>>>>>>>>> this weekend, according to the agenda proposed in occupywiki?
>>>>>>>>>> 2. If the answer is yes, will it help you to have access to this
>>>>>>>>>> building proposed by Greg and based yourself there for the duration of the
>>>>>>>>>> conference and receive the national occupations?
>>>>>>>>>> 3. If the answer is no, will you feel comfortable with moving the
>>>>>>>>>> conference to London in the School of Ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best and keep me posted as soon as you make a decision!
>>>>>>>>>> If you need more info about the building in Liverpool, you can
>>>>>>>>>> call Symon on: 07954682806
>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes!
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>
>

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