[meersbrook-house] Public Perception of FoMH and Going Ahead with Printing of Flyer

[Anthony Ashton]

Hallo!

Yes, all of the points below. I knew the minutiae of the text would get 
pored over, hence why I wanted it thrashed out at the meeting. Lets just 
move forward without any more regurgitation. I may be on holiday but I'm 
not away from wifi so will be making the alterations to the flyer and 
the design of the poster tonight and tomorrow. I will post to this list 
here when the designs have changed on the forum. Comments there please 
and then lets get this signed off. Remember they need to be passed under 
the Head of Carfields nose to get the approval for the mailout there. 
Can we get copy to them this weekend somehow? The designs need to go to 
the printer asap, preferably Monday morning so i will be handing the 
files off to someone who can submit them and pay the £85 for them. They 
will likely only deliver to the cardholders address. Nick has stated he 
is happy to cover this. Can someone make a decision here please. The 
survey was suggested almost as an after thought by Nick, but I think 
this is quite an important aspect. I'm happy to participate in suggested 
questions for it but I have made the technical alterations to point the 
survey address towards Nick's hosting so it is down to him to implement 
the survey if that makes sense. I am on holiday so it's unlikely I'll 
respond during the days but I'll be online most evenings.

Finally, if anyone has any suggestions for things to see in Cornwall, 
shout up!

On 13/09/2014 17:49, kate souper wrote:
> Thank you Simon for your voice of experience regarding SCC. It 
> certainly makes sense to me.
>
> Please can I make a few points:
>
>  1. I feel that the disagreements on this email list really need to be
>     reigned in as it is public and we need to at least appear united.
>  2. These public disagreements also risk making people not want to
>     join the group / take an active role in its future / make them
>     want to leave the group.
>  3. We keep getting bogged down in semantics instead of deciding /
>     actioning things. For example, at the last steering group we
>     endlessly discussed the wording of the flyer, and /then/ continued
>     that discussion online /even/ /after/ /it was finalised/, yet we
>     had no discussion at all about the survey which is arguably far
>     more important than which flyer words to use.
>  4. I think we need to be clear about what we want, and need to focus
>     on what needs to be done to achieve that, rather than trying to
>     second guess what the council and/or certain councillors think,
>     which appears to be constantly changing.
>
> Obviously things should be much easier once we have a formal structure 
> and people have designated roles and responsibilities within the group.
>
>
> Finally, a group of us met up at SUM studios earlier today to see one 
> of the undeveloped buildings (Liz Martinez emailed the whole list an 
> invitation). Three of us decided that we need to get the flyers 
> printed as a matter of urgency. So we will go ahead with printing 
> Anthony's original flyer (he is away on holiday), aiming for them to 
> be ready for the facilitators meeting on tuesday evening. We will also 
> finalise the content of the survey on tues, so _/please do put forward 
> your ideas/_. Maybe the place to do this would be the
>
> Public Meeting Working Group Proposal : 2nd July 2014 thread
>
> within the public meeting group in the forum as it appears to fit the 
> thread well? (Apologies I don't know how to link into the forum). 
> Obviously and importantly we need to liase with you about this too 
> Nick, but the survey needs to be up and running before we can 
> distribute any flyers.
>
> Cheers Kate
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Simon Clement-Jones 
> <simon at cdesystems.co.uk <mailto:simon at cdesystems.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     The problem is that SCC is a many headed beast and capable of
>     thinking, saying and sometimes even trying to do mutually
>     exclusive things.
>
>     Part of the council wants the building empty of SCC staff, part of
>     the council doesn't, part knows what's going on, part thinks it
>     knows what is going on, part doesn't know or care but is prepared
>     to speculate wildly.
>
>     Whether the staff stay or go if the community demands a role in
>     the future of the building then that may focus a few minds on the
>     possible.  The status quo will not be an option at some point in
>     the future and FoMH need to be ready (and united) for that moment.
>
>     If you want some weasel words which hopefully covers the facts for
>     the flyer:-
>
>     //
>
>     /"The long term future of Meersbrook Hall is uncertain. /
>
>     //
>
>     /"Sheffield City Council have no definite plans right now, but may
>     decide to find another use for it or sell it off. /
>
>     //
>
>     /"Many in the community hope to work with SCC to secure the future
>     of MH as a community resource before any decisions are taken. /
>
>     //
>
>     /"If you care about the future of Meersbrook Hall, have got ideas
>     about what uses it could be put to, please come along to the
>     meeting at..."/
>
>     Simon
>
>
>
>
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