[esocialaction] Open Documentaries proposal

Fri Sep 16 09:47:04 BST 2005

Hi All

After conversations with Yuwei & Soenke yesterday, we have discovered that none of us are in a position to submit this proposal in
time for the European FET call. The deadline of next Tuesday means that we could not bring together all the paperwork that would
be required, or develop the proposal to a level that we could all commit to.

Instead we propose that we meet on 4th November in London (the day after the final T & SA workshop) where we can explore our
different interests, try to arrive at a common view of the project, explore possible funding options and allocate roles for
developing the proposal further. I shall get a venue sorted out.

Please, when planning your travel arrangements for the London meeting, could you take this into account.

It's disappointing to miss a deadline like this, but we will all  be better off with a well thought out project with people we
have got to know, rather than a hastily arranged idea that may mean different things to each of us, and might surface
disagreements and problems further down the line. Thank you all for your contributions so far. 

I am sure we can build on the ideas we've collected so far to put together something that is innovative, exciting, of substantial
value to social action, AND properly thought through!

For those of you restarting teaching - have a good start of term. We look forward to seeing you all in London on the 3rd.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: Thompson, Steve [mailto:S.D.Thompson at tees.ac.uk] 
Sent: 14 September 2005 06:49
To: Dearden, Andrew M; Yuwei Lin; esocialaction at email-lists.org
Subject: RE: [esocialaction] open doc proposal - Roles and Finance

This is moving fast and I'm aware that I'm not really keeping up with it. However, I don't want to get left behind so I'll say
YES, include me in on the basis set out below by Andy although I think I fit more naturally into a training role than evaluation.
In terms of finance I probs align roughly with what Andy set out. I could also bring to the party community groups willing to
participate and these cover a wide variety of cultures and ethnic groups. I also have a student volunteering scheme that could
provide community media volunteers to assist community groups 

Apart from avoiding language barriers in software, what about also setting out to make the video(s) non dependent on language. ie
Express to producers that they are to try to express their culture in a way that can be understood or at least appreciated across
many languages.

http://neukol.org.uk/zulucast/

Steve Thompson
Community Media Coordinator

Department of Academic Enterprise
University Of Teesside
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From: esocialaction-bounces at email-lists.org on behalf of Dearden, Andrew M
Sent: Tue 13/09/2005 3:07 PM
To: Yuwei Lin; esocialaction at email-lists.org
Subject: [esocialaction] open doc proposal - Roles and Finance

Hi All

I'm all in favour of doing things on teh wiki where possible, but I have found in the past that writing proposals by wiki is very
difficult. It is less clear who is going to make sure the proposal actually gets finished and submitted on time. My understanding
is that we are hoping that Yuwei & Marlene will submit the outline proposal next week (20th)

We have very little time left.

I would like to suggest the following allocation of people to roles.

Needs analysis:
Andy (myself), Ann Light, David Wilcox -

It would help to have someone from outside the UK as part of this work. I have a couple of possible contacts (David Casacuberta in
Barcelona, Fiorella de Cindio in Milan) who might be interested. If no-one on the list from outside the UK wants to sign up, I
will contact one or both of them.

Tool development / integration
Tactical tech? Giles Lane (proboscis)?, Cinelera?, Soenke Zehle?
We don't have anyone listed as yet as specifically interested in co-ordinating the development work. This is critical. Are any of
the people listed here interested in taking this on board (obviously at a very provisional level right now).

The point here is that the initial proposal should make some suggestion as to an approximate budget for the project. We may be
doing back of the envelope stuff here, but we should have an idea of the kind of amounts we are talkign about, and the time scale.

Documentary making / testing
I still think we need someone to offer the specific skills in community documentary making - Ginny at Voluntary Arts may be able
to help. Who else would be interested from outside the UK?

Training workshops:
Leonie Ramondt (ultralab) ?
Steve Thompson
Again, a non-UK / non English speaking line would be helpful.

Evaluation:
Ann Light, Steve Thompson, Andy Dearden, Yuwei Lin & Marleen

Assuming that we want this to be a 3 year project, what kinds of finance would people be looking for.

For my own place I'd be thinking about about 220 - 250K Euros - this would employ a research assistant for 3 years, plus some
money to cover my time (about 1 day per week), plus some money for travel.

Andy

Andy Dearden
Communications & Computing Research Centre
ACES
Harmer Building
Sheffield Hallam University
Sheffield
S1 1WB
UK

email: a.m.dearden at shu.ac.uk
Tel: 0114 225 2916
Fax: 0114 225 3161

> -----Original Message-----
> From: esocialaction-bounces at email-lists.org
> [mailto:esocialaction-bounces at email-lists.org] On Behalf Of Yuwei Lin
> Sent: 12 September 2005 16:19
> To: esocialaction at email-lists.org
> Subject: Re: [esocialaction] open documentary project - draft proposal
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Thanks for showing your interest in the project.
>
> I'm trying to narrow down the project to a more doable level. It is
> possible that we will cooperate with TacticalTech
> (http://www.tacticaltech.org) and incorporate their practical
> activities
> with the research activities. To make this incorporation
> easier, I have
> listed three main research duties essential in this project:
> 1) mapping
> user requirements/needs for new media toolset (need assessment); 2)
> facilitating training workshop (teaching users how to use the
> new media
> toolset in a local level); 3) evaluation. Can all interested
> people go
> to the wiki page and put your name and affiliation in the
> category you
> wish to participate? Cheers.
>
> /yuwei
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