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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>After conversations with Yuwei & Soenke
yesterday, we have discovered that none of us are in a position to submit this
proposal in time for the European FET call. The deadline of next Tuesday means
that we could not bring together all the paperwork that would be required, or
develop the proposal to a level that we could all commit to.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Instead we propose that we meet on 4th November
in London (the day after the final T & SA workshop) where we can explore
our different interests, try to arrive at a common view of the project, explore
possible funding options and allocate roles for developing the proposal further.
I shall get a venue sorted out.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Please, when planning your travel
arrangements for the London meeting, could you take this into account.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It's disappointing to miss a deadline like
this, but we will all be better off with a well thought out project with
people we have got to know, rather than a hastily arranged idea that may mean different
things to each of us, and might surface disagreements and problems further down
the line. Thank you all for your contributions so far. </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am sure we can build on the ideas we've
collected so far to put together something that is innovative, exciting, of
substantial value to social action, AND properly thought through!</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For those of you restarting teaching -
have a good start of term. We look forward to seeing you all in London on the
3rd.</span></font></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Thompson, Steve
[mailto:S.D.Thompson@tees.ac.uk] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 14 September 2005 06:49<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Dearden, Andrew M; Yuwei Lin;
esocialaction@email-lists.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [esocialaction] open
doc proposal - Roles and Finance</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>This is
moving fast and I'm aware that I'm not really keeping up with it. However, I
don't want to get left behind so I'll say YES, include me in on the basis set
out below by Andy although I think I fit more naturally into a training role
than evaluation. In terms of finance I probs align roughly with what Andy set
out. I could also bring to the party community groups willing to participate
and these cover a wide variety of cultures and ethnic groups. I also have a
student volunteering scheme that could provide community media volunteers to
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from avoiding language barriers in software, what about also setting out to
make the video(s) non dependent on language. ie Express to producers that they
are to try to express their culture in a way that can be understood or at least
appreciated across many languages.</span></font></p>
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esocialaction-bounces@email-lists.org on behalf of Dearden, Andrew M<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tue 13/09/2005 3:07 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Yuwei Lin;
esocialaction@email-lists.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [esocialaction] open doc
proposal - Roles and Finance</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi All<br>
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I'm all in favour of doing things on teh wiki where possible, but I have found
in the past that writing proposals by wiki is very<br>
difficult. It is less clear who is going to make sure the proposal actually
gets finished and submitted on time. My understanding<br>
is that we are hoping that Yuwei & Marlene will submit the outline proposal
next week (20th)<br>
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We have very little time left.<br>
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I would like to suggest the following allocation of people to roles.<br>
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Needs analysis:<br>
Andy (myself), Ann Light, David Wilcox -<br>
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It would help to have someone from outside the UK as part of this work. I have
a couple of possible contacts (David Casacuberta in<br>
Barcelona, Fiorella de Cindio in Milan) who might be interested. If no-one on
the list from outside the UK wants to sign up, I<br>
will contact one or both of them.<br>
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Tool development / integration<br>
Tactical tech? Giles Lane (proboscis)?, Cinelera?, Soenke Zehle?<br>
We don't have anyone listed as yet as specifically interested in co-ordinating
the development work. This is critical. Are any of<br>
the people listed here interested in taking this on board (obviously at a very
provisional level right now).<br>
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The point here is that the initial proposal should make some suggestion as to
an approximate budget for the project. We may be<br>
doing back of the envelope stuff here, but we should have an idea of the kind
of amounts we are talkign about, and the time scale.<br>
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Documentary making / testing<br>
I still think we need someone to offer the specific skills in community
documentary making - Ginny at Voluntary Arts may be able<br>
to help. Who else would be interested from outside the UK?<br>
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Training workshops:<br>
Leonie Ramondt (ultralab) ?<br>
Steve Thompson<br>
Again, a non-UK / non English speaking line would be helpful.<br>
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Evaluation:<br>
Ann Light, Steve Thompson, Andy Dearden, Yuwei Lin & Marleen<br>
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Assuming that we want this to be a 3 year project, what kinds of finance would
people be looking for.<br>
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For my own place I'd be thinking about about 220 - 250K Euros - this would
employ a research assistant for 3 years, plus some<br>
money to cover my time (about 1 day per week), plus some money for travel.<br>
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Andy<br>
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Andy Dearden<br>
Communications & Computing Research Centre<br>
ACES<br>
Harmer Building<br>
Sheffield Hallam University<br>
Sheffield<br>
S1 1WB<br>
UK<br>
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email: a.m.dearden@shu.ac.uk<br>
Tel: 0114 225 2916<br>
Fax: 0114 225 3161<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: esocialaction-bounces@email-lists.org<br>
> [<a href="mailto:esocialaction-bounces@email-lists.org">mailto:esocialaction-bounces@email-lists.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Yuwei Lin<br>
> Sent: 12 September 2005 16:19<br>
> To: esocialaction@email-lists.org<br>
> Subject: Re: [esocialaction] open documentary project - draft proposal<br>
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> Hi All,<br>
><br>
> Thanks for showing your interest in the project.<br>
><br>
> I'm trying to narrow down the project to a more doable level. It is<br>
> possible that we will cooperate with TacticalTech<br>
> (<a href="http://www.tacticaltech.org">http://www.tacticaltech.org</a>)
and incorporate their practical<br>
> activities<br>
> with the research activities. To make this incorporation<br>
> easier, I have<br>
> listed three main research duties essential in this project:<br>
> 1) mapping<br>
> user requirements/needs for new media toolset (need assessment); 2)<br>
> facilitating training workshop (teaching users how to use the<br>
> new media<br>
> toolset in a local level); 3) evaluation. Can all interested<br>
> people go<br>
> to the wiki page and put your name and affiliation in the<br>
> category you<br>
> wish to participate? Cheers.<br>
><br>
> /yuwei<br>
> --<br>
> Yuwei Lin | yuwei at ylin dot org<br>
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