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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Why not bring a workshop to the conference here in Sheffield?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Also, could you set up a ‘straitforward website, which would be more accessible than f/b or twitter?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dawn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Mark Barrett [mailto:marknbarrett@googlemail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 02 January 2012 00:09<br><b>Cc:</b> occupylondon@groupspaces.com; occupysheffield@email-lists.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OccupySheffield] [Occupy London] Re: [INT] Fwd: [Squares] MAYDAY! MAYDAY!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Heather and others, about your desire for more lobbying.. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Lobby OLSX <<a href="mailto:lobbyolsx@gmail.com">lobbyolsx@gmail.com</a>><br>Date: 30 December 2011 02:09<br>Subject: hey, link up any thoughts :)<br>To: <a href="mailto:crdlondon@gmail.com">crdlondon@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p><br>hello,<o:p></o:p></p><p>I sent an email detailing direct democracy action for J10 in the form<br>of lobbying methods and building a general lobbying policy and<br>initiative in london.<o:p></o:p></p><p>the group is occupy london lobbying - I have set up a twitter acc and<br>FB pages but am looking for more support to run workshops for<br>democracy and assemblies that can be run on the theme of individual<br>effort in a collective consciousness.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Thanks, please email me for more info, be pleased to hear any thoughts. :)<br>Danny<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 2 January 2012 00:04, <a href="mailto:barriers2bridges@virginmedia.com">barriers2bridges@virginmedia.com</a> <<a href="mailto:barriers2bridges@virginmedia.com">barriers2bridges@virginmedia.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I agree, but to be fare, the eco systems you describe are pretty few and far between, at least in the west and yeah, exist within a little utopia.<br>Even within the UK they are pretty insular against a backdrop of capitalist domination. For example, Hockerton Housing Project (which I read about for a paper I had to write for my course last year) exists because it gives people the choice to 'live green and adopt a kinder/gentler lifestyle - not because living off-grid is a necessity the way it might be in say South American countries.<br>Yeah, I personally would like to visit there, as its somewhere near Nottingham and not too far from Sheffield - they do group and individual tours and talks.<br>Also, it was the only one that provided the example that, they strived to be accessible for people with special needs - many of them just don't and a lot of people, join them, stay a few years and then move on if their romantic ideals of a greener nirvana haven't risen to their expectations - I've experienced it for myself; they also can be extremely uninvighting to "outsiders" especially if they think you pose a threat...<br><br>The eco/sustainable communities we need to build upon, must be out of necessity, not out of some ideology that is seemingly out-of-reach to those not middle-class enough to be able to invest in shared land, for example.<br>I also think Heeley farm are providing a good exsample of an urban-based set of sustainable practices, both addressing the environment and marginalised communities; they support community allotments - some within deprived areas, some particularly for under 5's, who might not get exposed to such a thing.<br>Still, its far too small scale, just like the 'small scale' investment in say solar or wind power.<br>Lets face it, the UK doesn't even support vehicles going over to veg fat or dung to replace gas or deasle.<br>Its mad, but these are what we must be pushing any capitalist government to adopt and fast, rather than pandering to trans-national corporations, holding entire governments to ransom. Why isn't anyone pushing the UK and European governments to snub the IMF?<br>These are the things we've absolutely got to lobby, otherwise, the powers-that-be will just continue to turn their noses up to a bunch of people sleeping in tents in public spaces and not 'really doing much else'...!!!!<br><br> Dawn <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:niel@squat.net" target="_blank">niel@squat.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:niel@squat.net" target="_blank">niel@squat.net</a>] Sent: 01 January 2012 15:57<br>To: <a href="mailto:LondonInternationalCommission@groupspaces.com" target="_blank">LondonInternationalCommission@groupspaces.com</a><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:occupylondon@groupspaces.com" target="_blank">occupylondon@groupspaces.com</a>; <a href="mailto:occupysheffield@email-lists.org" target="_blank">occupysheffield@email-lists.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [OccupySheffield] [Occupy London] Re: [INT] Fwd: [Squares] MAYDAY! MAYDAY!<br><br>The alternative, non-exploitative modes of value-creation already exist<br>George, I don't know in a big capitalist city like London but in north of<br>Spain, south of France or north of Italy you can find a lot of autonomous<br>communities, eco-industries, organic farms, alternatives currencies and<br>bank of time, holistic cooperatives...<br>And in south America, central America, India, in the pacific, we don't<br>need to build an economic reality alternative to the dominant system from<br>zero, the challenge as you said is to link this initiatives, at least to<br>share the knowledge but also the resources if possible.<br>I have a lot of friends who give up the fight because they already live in<br>their utopia, they don't need to camp or fight everyday, they don't need<br>us but we need them.<br>A lot of people in 'Occupy' movement say that they are anti-capitalists<br>but I don't see/listen/read them investigating about the post-capitalist<br>projects/world... Protesting is easy, the challenge now is to be/live<br>coherent with our fight.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>you raise an important point George!<br>Sent from phone<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: "George Por" <<a href="mailto:george@community-intelligence.com" target="_blank">george@community-intelligence.com</a>><br>Sender: <a href="mailto:OccupyLondon@groupspaces.com" target="_blank">OccupyLondon@groupspaces.com</a><br>Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:51:46<br>To: jamie kelsey-fry<<a href="mailto:lsxcamp@gmail.com" target="_blank">lsxcamp@gmail.com</a>>;<br><<a href="mailto:LondonInternationalCommission@groupspaces.com" target="_blank">LondonInternationalCommission@groupspaces.com</a>><br>Reply-To: <a href="mailto:george@community-intelligence.com" target="_blank">george@community-intelligence.com</a><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:occupylondon@groupspaces.com" target="_blank">occupylondon@groupspaces.com</a><<a href="mailto:OccupyLondon@groupspaces.com" target="_blank">OccupyLondon@groupspaces.com</a>>;<br><<a href="mailto:occupysheffield@email-lists.org" target="_blank">occupysheffield@email-lists.org</a>>; <<a href="mailto:oh15@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">oh15@googlegroups.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Occupy London] Re: [INT] Fwd: [Squares] MAYDAY! MAYDAY!<br><br>Hmm... continuous strike? how will the 99% make a living without the<br>alternative, non-exploitative modes of value-creation being in place?<br><br>Call outs are easy; building an economic reality alternative to the<br>dominant<br>system is challenging! Yet what is challenging appeals me more than what<br>is<br>easy...<br><br>george<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><br>Wow<br><br>I am with that Mayday call out 100%. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>"a continuous strike, a permanent<br>withdrawal from the current system, a signal for all those who feel<br>their work to be meaningless and unsatisfying, to switch to<br>alternative means which are beneficial to the whole community, to<br>support themselves and their families"<br><br>To me, this is the profound escalation that the movement needs.<br>Brilliant.<br><br>Between now and May, there is enough time to make this happen as long as<br>it<br>becomes the focus globally very soon. Definitely something for<br>Sheffield?<br><br>Best<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Jamie  <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Mark Barrett<br><<a href="mailto:marknbarrett@googlemail.com" target="_blank">marknbarrett@googlemail.com</a>><br>wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>MAYDAY! MAYDAY!<br>It is obvious we are headed for disaster unless we change course<br>drastically, and we don't have a lot of time. A project is being<br>discussed internationally in the Occupy movement - Global Strike May<br>2012. What we are proposing is a continuous strike, a permanent<br>withdrawal from the current system, a signal for all those who feel<br>their work to be meaningless and unsatisfying, to switch to<br>alternative means which are beneficial to the whole community, to<br>support themselves and their families. In order to make this feasible<br>this alternative system needs to be up and running by May 2012.<br>Outrageous! Impossible! I agree with you. Nevertheless it has to<br>happen if we are serious about moving from this morally bankrupt and<br>physically damaging path we are on, to a sustainable system that puts<br>people before profit. Join us on Take the Squares Network<br><a href="https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/1010883/15m-global-strike/" target="_blank">https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/1010883/15m-global-strike/</a><br><<a href="https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/1010883/15m-global-strike/" target="_blank">https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/1010883/15m-global-strike/</a>> . and please<br>pass<br>around to friends<br>and colleagues.<br>______________________________________________<br><br>n-1 working group:<br><a href="https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/104127/take-the-square-international/" target="_blank">https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/104127/take-the-square-international/</a><br><<a href="https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/104127/take-the-square-international/" target="_blank">https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/104127/take-the-square-international/</a>><br><br>Squares mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Squares@lists.takethesquare.net" target="_blank">Squares@lists.takethesquare.net</a><br><mailto:<a href="mailto:Squares@lists.takethesquare.net" target="_blank">Squares@lists.takethesquare.net</a>><br>for unsubscribe/etc:<br><a href="https://lists.takethesquare.net/mailman/listinfo/squares" target="_blank">https://lists.takethesquare.net/mailman/listinfo/squares</a><br><<a href="https://lists.takethesquare.net/mailman/listinfo/squares" target="_blank">https://lists.takethesquare.net/mailman/listinfo/squares</a>> or<br><a href="mailto:Squares-owner@lists.takethesquare.net" target="_blank">Squares-owner@lists.takethesquare.net</a><br><mailto:<a href="mailto:Squares-owner@lists.takethesquare.net" target="_blank">Squares-owner@lists.takethesquare.net</a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br> --<br><br>Friendly reminder: please keep these mailing list discussions to a<br>minimum as<br>they reach a lot of people. 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