<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Em, you are spot on, just keep galloping. We will all join you.<br><br>Anna<br><br><br><br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:05:39 +0000<br>
From: Em Weirdigan <<a href="mailto:elf@weirdigans.co.uk">elf@weirdigans.co.uk</a>><br>
To: J L <<a href="mailto:hemipemi@hotmail.com">hemipemi@hotmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:occupylondon@groupspaces.com">occupylondon@groupspaces.com</a>, <a href="mailto:olsx.indymedia@gmail.com">olsx.indymedia@gmail.com</a>,<br>
        <a href="mailto:occupysheffield@email-lists.org">occupysheffield@email-lists.org</a>,<br>
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Subject: Re: [OccupySheffield] [Occupy London] Re: [INT] Fwd:<br>
        [Squares]       MAYDAY! MAYDAY!<br>
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A lot of this is happening already, we don't need to invent it all, we<br>
'just' need to link it all up and do lots more of it, with variations!<br>
Yippee!<br>
<br>
Workers' and housing co-operatives; co-housing and eco-villages; food<br>
growing and box-schemes; skill-shares and labour exchanges; reuse and<br>
upcycling; squatting; alternative dwelling-places (tents, caravans, huts,<br>
treehouses); truly ethical businesses only (that means ones which give<br>
something to the community and put people and planet before profit);<br>
community-controlled micro-renewable energy sources; sustainable forest<br>
management...<br>
<br>
Some of this seems normal to some of us, we need to make it normal to the<br>
whole 99%!<br>
<br>
Or, do tell me if I'm on the wrong track... I might just have jumped on my<br>
favourite hobby horse and gallopped off on my own... ;)<br>
<br>
Em x<br>
<br>
ps Here's a few tiny examples that I've been involved with or know about;<br>
there must be so many thousands if we all pooled what we know!<br>
<a href="http://hebdenbridgetransitiontown.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://hebdenbridgetransitiontown.org.uk/</a><br>
<a href="http://www.radicalroutes.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.radicalroutes.org.uk/</a><br>
<a href="http://www.lilac.coop/" target="_blank">http://www.lilac.coop/</a><br>
<a href="http://www.lancastercohousing.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.lancastercohousing.org.uk/</a><br>
<a href="http://www.weirdigans.co.uk" target="_blank">http://www.weirdigans.co.uk</a><br>
<a href="http://www.ledfantastic.co.uk" target="_blank">http://www.ledfantastic.co.uk</a><br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 3:42 PM, J L <<a href="mailto:hemipemi@hotmail.com">hemipemi@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
>  Yes yes yes!<br>
><br>
> VERY interested and willing to look into the exact details and<br>
> practicalities of this shift.<br>
><br>
> I think a lot of it will come down to having a large enough network of<br>
> occupations and facilities around the country available to maintain this<br>
> off-system economy. Bike networks, resource management, (sourcing, sharing,<br>
> distribution), free accomodation through Occupation sites and buildings,<br>
> etc, and everything with a clear route towards becoming 100% off grid.<br>
><br>
> Also jobs. If it's to work we need to completely reestablish what job<br>
> positions are needed in a functioning alternative society. A long term<br>
> gameplan could be necessary with the assumption that a lot of early jobs<br>
> would be related to the establishment and creation of the system rather<br>
> than it's continued operation and maintenance.<br>
><br>
> We need to look very carefully at all the mistakes that have been made in<br>
> small scale attempts that have been made of this. Occupation sites and<br>
> public eco-villages (past and present) would all be a good point of<br>
> reference). I freudean typed that last line as "Occupation sites ARE public<br>
> eco-villages". That might be a good principle to employ ;)<br>
><br>
> Jonathan<br>
><br>
><br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:olsx.indymedia@gmail.com">olsx.indymedia@gmail.com</a><br>
> From: <a href="mailto:elf@weirdigans.co.uk">elf@weirdigans.co.uk</a><br>
> CC: <a href="mailto:marknbarrett@googlemail.com">marknbarrett@googlemail.com</a>;<br>
> <a href="mailto:LondonInternationalCommission@groupspaces.com">LondonInternationalCommission@groupspaces.com</a>;<br>
> <a href="mailto:OccupyLondon@groupspaces.com">OccupyLondon@groupspaces.com</a>; <a href="mailto:occupysheffield@email-lists.org">occupysheffield@email-lists.org</a><br>
><br>
> Subject: Re: [Occupy London] Re: [INT] Fwd: [Squares] MAYDAY! MAYDAY!<br>
> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:18:50 +0000<br>
><br>
><br>
> YES!!!<br>
><br>
> I've been trying to encourage people to do this for years... ;)<br>
><br>
> ... many people will be fearful. But if those of us with courage and/or<br>
> little to lose get on with it, perhaps we can create a nice big bouncy<br>
> castle of alternatives for the fearful to jump onto...?<br>
><br>
> Em x<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 12:27 PM, OLSX Indymedia <<a href="mailto:olsx.indymedia@gmail.com">olsx.indymedia@gmail.com</a><br>
> > wrote:<br>
><br>
> @George<br>
><br>
> If you had a large-scale withdrawal of labour from the 1% means of<br>
> production, those alternatives become realities. I don't have time to go<br>
> into this in depth now, but the overriding point is that they are one and<br>
> the same, not two separate factors.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:25 AM, <a href="mailto:marknbarrett@googlemail.com">marknbarrett@googlemail.com</a> <<br>
> <a href="mailto:marknbarrett@googlemail.com">marknbarrett@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> you raise an important point George!<br>
> Sent from phone<br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> *From: * "George Por" <<a href="mailto:george@community-intelligence.com">george@community-intelligence.com</a>><br>
> *Sender: * <a href="mailto:OccupyLondon@groupspaces.com">OccupyLondon@groupspaces.com</a><br>
> *Date: *Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:51:46 +0000<br>
> *To: *jamie kelsey-fry<<a href="mailto:lsxcamp@gmail.com">lsxcamp@gmail.com</a>>; <<br>
> <a href="mailto:LondonInternationalCommission@groupspaces.com">LondonInternationalCommission@groupspaces.com</a>><br>
> *ReplyTo: * <a href="mailto:george@community-intelligence.com">george@community-intelligence.com</a><br>
> *Cc: *<a href="mailto:occupylondon@groupspaces.com">occupylondon@groupspaces.com</a><<a href="mailto:OccupyLondon@groupspaces.com">OccupyLondon@groupspaces.com</a>>; <<br>
> <a href="mailto:occupysheffield@email-lists.org">occupysheffield@email-lists.org</a>>; <<a href="mailto:oh15@googlegroups.com">oh15@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
> *Subject: *Re: [Occupy London] Re: [INT] Fwd: [Squares] MAYDAY! MAYDAY!<br>
><br>
> Hmm... continuous strike? how will the 99% make a living without the<br>
> alternative, non-exploitative modes of value-creation being in place?<br>
><br>
> Call outs are easy; building an economic reality alternative to the<br>
> dominant system is challenging! Yet what is challenging appeals me more<br>
> than what is easy...<br>
><br>
> george<br>
><br>
><br>
> Wow<br>
><br>
> I am with that Mayday call out 100%.<br>
><br>
> "a continuous strike, a permanent<br>
> withdrawal from the current system, a signal for all those who feel<br>
> their work to be meaningless and unsatisfying, to switch to<br>
> alternative means which are beneficial to the whole community, to<br>
> support themselves and their families"<br>
><br>
> To me, this is the profound escalation that the movement needs. Brilliant.<br>
><br>
> Between now and May, there is enough time to make this happen as long as<br>
> it becomes the focus globally very soon. Definitely something for Sheffield?<br>
><br>
> Best<br>
><br>
> Jamie<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Mark Barrett <<br>
> <a href="mailto:marknbarrett@googlemail.com">marknbarrett@googlemail.com</a> <<a href="http://googlemail.com" target="_blank">http://googlemail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
> MAYDAY! MAYDAY!<br>
> It is obvious we are headed for disaster unless we change course<br>
> drastically, and we don't have a lot of time. A project is being<br>
> discussed internationally in the Occupy movement - Global Strike May<br>
> 2012. What we are proposing is a continuous strike, a permanent<br>
> withdrawal from the current system, a signal for all those who feel<br>
> their work to be meaningless and unsatisfying, to switch to<br>
> alternative means which are beneficial to the whole community, to<br>
> support themselves and their families. In order to make this feasible<br>
> this alternative system needs to be up and running by May 2012.<br>
> Outrageous! Impossible! I agree with you. Nevertheless it has to<br>
> happen if we are serious about moving from this morally bankrupt and<br>
> physically damaging path we are on, to a sustainable system that puts<br>
> people before profit. Join us on Take the Squares Network<br>
> <a href="https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/1010883/15m-global-strike/" target="_blank">https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/1010883/15m-global-strike/</a> <<br>
> <a href="https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/1010883/15m-global-strike/" target="_blank">https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/1010883/15m-global-strike/</a>> . and please pass<br>
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> and colleagues.<br>
> ______________________________________________<br>
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