[OccupySheffield] Fwd: [Occupy London] info and proposal

Mon Jan 2 13:24:12 GMT 2012

 >Let’s not forget that our goal is to engage with society, not to recreate
a little societies ourselves. So the question should be: how do we best
engage the 99% in a positive discussion on social, economic and
environmental justice?
+1 Mattia!

> To engage with the 99 per cent the goal certainly isn't to have all pick
a camp to come stay in, but, indeed, solving how to build a social,
environmental and economical alternative for the better.
+1 Raghnild!

*Proposal for Sat's GA*

Following this conversation and following on from John and Raghnild's
proposals for this Sat's GA (on Mayday! thread) may I propose this Sat's GA
is about strategic outreach/engagement, in the sense outlined here by
Mattia. As a good in itself, but also as prep for A. Sheffield and
Frankfurt meetings and B. March thru May transition/strike mobilisations in
UK, Europe and world.

Personally I am beginning to see how, at this point being too focused /
dogmatic on political content will get in way of facilitating the
desperately needed national conversation (and pioneering model of
engagement with the 99) Mattia alludes to. Given the many uncertainties and
crises we now face ( economically, militarily, ecologically, politically
and so forth) don't we need to focus ourselves on a broad strategy for the
next 4-6 months which builds on the success of the movement so far by
linking with and mobilising for the international actions, while also
developing that conversation in the local ( ie local, national, UK-Ireland
and European) contexts. This conversation is essential to engage, raise
awareness and inspiration for the strike / transition while also building
the movement to occupy, transform, re-invent and democratise all aspects of
culture (ie via assemblies and other autonomous alternatives..) and
therefore must be our absolute priority to facilitate.

To repeat I propose this Sat's GA should be the start of the
official conversation within Occupy London on how to engage the 99 this
year in the run up to the days of action and beyond. As such it could touch
upon many points raised in important recent posts
eg

(1) considering, endorsing and finding ways to start practically supporting
the March - May calls
(2) considering setting up sectoral outreach WGs to engage London and
country-wide with eg with union rank and file, union leadership,
church/other religious and community groups, education establishments,
workplaces, unemployed, precarious and diverse other workers, autonomous,
co-operative, eco-community, alternative bank and food sovereignty
projects, student / other campaigns and so forth, in a strategic, commonly
understandable and mutually supportive way - basically to encourage that
conversation. An attempt of mine on the church front is set out below, for
example.
(3) considering on these two topics how best to approach Sheffield and
Frankfurt (on latter see info at
http://www.peoplesassemblies.org/2012/01/querids-companers-amigs-indignads/
 )

*Church Engagement / Occupy 2012
*
“What would Jesus do?” asked a pithy placard at the Occupy the London Stock
Exchange protest recently. It seems rather obvious in a way. For
some the answer was given in another St Paul’s placard, carried by a man
dressed as Jesus “I threw out the money-lenders for a reason”.
Of course we’re not in Jerusalem, nor are we technically in a temple.

But according to David Cameron’s speech to mark the anniversary of the King
James Bible, we have a dire need to “return to Christian morals”,
and we the people should revive “what we stand for” and go back to the
Bible to define ”the kind of society we want to build.”
Some Occupy supporters may agree with some of these sentiments. We are a
‘broad church’ and the Bible, and the Jesus it portrays does contain
a lot of progressive political references. Plus the idea of  reformulating
what we are about as a nation sounds quite democratic.
There is, however, a dissonant note associated with a politician – the
politician - lecturing the masses on returning to Christian morals. As
Luke 16:13 has Jesus himself saying: “No servant can serve two masters..
you cannot serve God and mammon.”
Cameron’s economic nationalism should also grate on Christian souls.

The world needs international co-operation to solve its many problems, and
Christendom was never ‘Little England.’ In fact, for most of its
history it was associated with Europe as a whole. Yet Cameron retreats
pointlessly from the European project just when we should be pulling
together against the dictatorial power of the financial markets.

David Cameron’s visionary idea for Britain was ‘the big society’. Revd
Giles Fraser says “one can imagine Jesus being born in the protest
camp” and the early Christian movement was one of the biggest ‘big society’
movements in history. In a way those hardy souls camping out,
in an effort to transform the system are the closest thing we have to a
functioning global – big – society. Yet Cameron’s government is
legislating to ban political camping!

The energy, practices and idealism Occupy embodies is a potentially huge,
productive motor around which to build a new, enlightened
economy. Yet no major politician has been willing to engage with the
movement on its own terms. All we ever hear from them is words of
demonisation or co-option.

However the church is quite a different matter. As Giles Fraser put it
recently: “Occupy ..  begins .. with the idea that lasting change is
only possible if more people are sucked into the conversation, more of us
educate each other as to the workings and effects of a
dysfunctional economy… Remember the total non-event that was Tony Blair's
Big Conversation? Well, this is how you do it properly”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/dec/12/occupy-starfish-regenerate-protest

Or, as the Archbishop of Canterbury himself, put it earlier in the year: “A
democracy going beyond populism or majoritarianism but also
beyond a Balkanised focus on the local that fixed in stone a variety of
postcode lotteries; a democracy capable of real argument about
shared needs and hopes and real generosity: any takers?”
http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2011/06/long-term-government-democracy

It is commonly agreed in Occupy that we need alternative, civic
institutions in order to develop our collective understanding, and
transform society. Unlike the state and the market, civil society does not
yet have a recognised political form, but through the promotion of its
egalitarian Assembly model of decision-making that is exactlyl what many in
Occupy are hoping to create.

Working together, we could we make alternative institutions to develop,
quoting the Archbishop of Canterbury again “a long-term education policy at
every level that will deliver the critical tools for democratic
involvement, not simply skills that serve the economy”.

So, in the spirit of the Christmas season, an interesting question comes to
mind.  Could Occupy and the church join forces in 2012?
In our broken times, with people neglected and the community fabric undone,
a well-organised common endeavour could help revitalise the true spirit of
our culture, and the church, and our ailing political economy.

On 2 January 2012 12:24, Ragnhild Freng Dale <ragnhildfd at gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 for Mattia's point. People may live in different places (not even on
> one of the sites) and have main causes within the movement (why we have
> working groups in the first place), but whether you're more keen on running
> a place, cooking in the kitchen, being in a working group, or a bit of all,
> contribution is to the movement as a whole. To engage with the 99 per cent
> the goal certainly isn't to have all pick a camp to come stay in, but,
> indeed, solving how to build a social, environmental and economical
> alternative for the better.
>
>
> 2012/1/2 Mattia Fosci <mattia.fosci at gmail.com>
>
>>  Ok. Financial and organisational autonomy for each site makes sense. ***
>> *
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> But what about political working groups? Do we really want to split
>> ourselves into, say, 4 economics working group, 4 corporation working
>> groups and so forth? This way we will have 150 working groups with 3
>> members each, all saying similar things.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> And what about events and actions? We certainly want the full
>> participation of all Occupy London sites, don’t we? Strength is in numbers.
>> ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Bottom line: autonomy for running the camps, unity in policy discussions,
>> high-profile events and actions. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Let’s not forget that our goal is to engage with society, not to recreate
>> a little societies ourselves. So the question should be: how do we best
>> engage the 99% in a positive discussion on social, economic and
>> environmental justice?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> M****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* OccupyLondon at groupspaces.com [mailto:OccupyLondon at groupspaces.com]
>> *On Behalf Of *J L
>> *Sent:* 02 January 2012 11:24
>> *To:* auerfeld at gmail.com
>> *Cc:* mattjhorne at hotmail.co.uk; michele_kidane at hotmail.com; ana cora;
>> vicaolsx at gmail.com; occupylondon at groupspaces.com; mattia.fosci at gmail.com
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: [Occupy London] info and proposal****
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> Well there is Occupylsx.org, occupylfs.org, bankofideas.org.uk.. Occupy
>> Justice probably has a site. I know occupylsx.org is essentially the
>> Occupy London hub, and provides news and information about all Occupy
>> London sites, but this comes down to the same problem that I was
>> highlighting: The fact that the other occupations feel that they will be
>> propped up by the activities of Occupylsx (or St Paul's), means unlike
>> other National Occupations, they will always carry a stunted sense of
>> independence, that can lead to resentment from both sides.
>>
>> The other advantage of treating Finsbury, BoI, and Occupy Justice as
>> seperate occupations which must be self-sustaining, is that their
>> reasonable proximity to St Paul's means they would be ideal testing ground
>> for the steps we might be able to take in order to achieve some degree of
>> national unity for Occupy, rather than just "Occupy London"  - something
>> virtually all occupations agree would be a good thing.
>>
>> Jonathan****
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:08:19 +0000
>> Subject: RE: [Occupy London] info and proposal
>> From: auerfeld at gmail.com
>> To: hemipemi at hotmail.com
>> CC: mattjhorne at hotmail.co.uk; michele_kidane at hotmail.com;
>> anacora.decorum at gmail.com; vicaolsx at gmail.com;
>> occupylondon at groupspaces.com; mattia.fosci at gmail.com
>>
>> Hi Jonathan,
>> I'm following this thread with interest, but felt I should point out that
>> - unless something's recently been set up that I've missed - there is no
>> 'St Paul's website'.
>> Naomi****
>>
>> On 2 Jan 2012 08:34, "J L" <hemipemi at hotmail.com> wrote:****
>>
>> The fact is BoI and Court of Justice were both opened without consult or
>> consideration of Occupy Process or General Assembly and have assumed
>> financial dependence on donations gathered from St Paul's and the St Paul's
>> website.
>>
>> There's no elitist conspiracy involved, just an imbalance that needs to
>> be rectified and a process that needs to be in place with regards to new
>> buildings and occupation sites. St Paul's has enough of it's own troubles
>> to have to prop up an occupation that cannot support itself!
>>
>> Besides I don't believe that any occupation is unable to support itself,
>> but it won't bother if it doesn't have to.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> ****
>>
>> > To: anacora.decorum at gmail.com; mattia.fosci at gmail.com
>> > From: michele_kidane at hotmail.com
>> > CC: vicaolsx at gmail.com; mattjhorne at hotmail.co.uk;
>> OccupyLondon at groupspaces.com
>> > Subject: Re: [Occupy London] info and proposal
>> > Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 08:15:13 +0000
>> >
>> > I just wanted to point out that most of the ppl at boi and the court
>> house are exactly the same ppl that were in st.paul from the beginning.
>> Who's here to say what is occupy ethos and what's no? Ok we had incident at
>> bank of ideas, but so we did I st.paul and fisbury(actually maybe not at
>> fisbury). As far as I'm aware very interesting debate and talk happen at
>> bank of ideas, as much as st.paul. As I always said let's stop thinking
>> that there is some kind if elitist conspirancy and let's start doing the
>> best of the 3 site! One more thing those incident that now are on the top
>> of you worries are only grain of saind compare to the cause we are
>> fighting. So my suggestion is let start focusing on the positive and move
>> foward!!
>> > Mike-ilivestrea @ st.paul, ffs, bank of ideas and the court of justice.
>> >
>> > Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: ana cora <anacora.decorum at gmail.com>
>> > Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 02:44:14
>> > To: <mattia.fosci at gmail.com>
>> > Cc: <vicaolsx at gmail.com>; <mattjhorne at hotmail.co.uk>; <
>> OccupyLondon at groupspaces.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [Occupy London] info and proposal
>> >
>> > Having four camps was never an idea which was discussed publicly with
>> people from occupy - ie st pauls and finsbury but certain individuals chose
>> to act. This is fine but there has been no long term strategy to maintain
>> the integrity of the sites.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I agree with the sentiment Mattia However this is already the case and
>> those now at the places we have called sites of occupy are no longer
>> inhabited by the idea that cannot be evicted. Is it the plcae whch is
>> occupy or is it the ethos which is applied in those locations? If it is the
>> latter then, how can a building be considered a part of occupy if those
>> inhabiting it no longer are enacting and upholding and of the key values or
>> philosophy which has come to represent occupylondon?
>> >
>> >
>> > I like the idea of making the sites more independent of each other-
>> finsbury and st pauls already are relatively independent in terms of GA and
>> chosen activities but appear still very much united in philosophy.
>> > the BOI and court house are not , in my opinion, a part of occupy but a
>> place where activities which were a part of occupy once occurred. I would
>> suggest that any endorsement of BOI or any further future squats are
>> independent of occupy but remain possible locations where workshops of
>> events can happen , in the same way we have meetings at the salvation army
>> cafe yet we - as occupy- do not occupy the building 24/7.
>> > One could suggest that BOI could be "reclaimed"  but considering the
>> damage to the soundness of the building it is no longer fit for purpose.
>> > I'd also suggest that we discourage anyone from entering BOI due to
>> possible asbestos contamination. Now the strucrure of the building has been
>> so damaged , and apparently the walls are insulated with asbestos it might
>> not be safe to breathe the dust.
>> > The fact that phoenix has taken it upon himself to open these places
>> but not communicate with st pauls or finsbury to decide how this benefits
>> the occupy movement and not take any responsibility for maintaining a safe
>> space that he is not showing any respect for the processes developed
>> democratically nor for the future of occupy and is a liability to the group
>> as a whole.
>> > It has already caused divisions , schisms , divides and fractures
>> within the communities and to declare disunity, independence etc could
>> actually reunite , redefine and solidify the movement if we make clear what
>> the common purpose and common ground actually is by defining what its not.
>> > So by deciding and making public a statement such as -
>> > individuals/groups are not affiliated to nor representative of
>> occupylondon unless ratified and announced via the official channels of
>> occupylondon
>> > might maybe help make clearer what it is we as occupylondon do endorse
>> and take responsibility for.....?
>> >
>> >
>> > What is more concerning is that subgroups and individuals are able to
>> take control and exclude or include or abuse the inherited power of the
>> occupy movement for personal agendas and there is no way of dealing with
>> this easily or democratically without possible physical confrontation. From
>> recent events is does not sound like those people concerned were willing or
>> able to use reason.
>> >
>> > How to proceed constructively??
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Mattia Fosci <mattia.fosci at gmail.com<mailto:
>> mattia.fosci at gmail.com> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I think that the idea of making the four camps independent would be a
>> colossal mistake. It will lead to factions, more competition and less
>> collaboration, incoherent and potentially conflicting ideas, incoherent
>> press releases and a chronic shortage of people in all four camps. We need
>> to learn working together, not split up in groups.
>> >
>> > M
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jan 1, 2012, at 4:27 PM, matthew horne wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Last night, a number of people went to the court house last night after
>> being invited previously. Around 20 real occupiers including Max, Jamie,
>> Saskia, George, Dan, Steve, Luke, Livestream Nafeesa and Bene (All the
>> equipment to stream Occupy Wall Street), Becky. They went there to continue
>> festivities diverting noise from St Pauls, also, many of these occupiers
>> had been so involved with the court case they had not even seen the court
>> building. They went there and were refused entry and the door slammed in
>> there faces. We were simply informed, speak to Phoenix.
>> >
>> > Another individual who was in the building saw us and proceeded to try
>> and let us in.
>> >
>> > Transcript:
>> >
>> > Once he saw us at the balcony, he went to the main door to open it up
>> and he was barred by the security guard.
>> >
>> > The security guard told him the place is under lockdown and if he had
>> any issues, then contact Pheonix.
>> >
>> > There was a verbal confrontation, the security guard told him to fuck
>> off back to his own country, this is my fucking country.
>> >
>> > Then the guy left and came with us.
>> >
>> > Racism is not acceptable, it will not be toleratated at all.
>> >
>> > The argument for lockdown was that the police were going to raid the
>> place, but this didn't stop them from letting their buddies in. They only
>> barred occupiers.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Another incident at the side door.
>> >
>> > One lady was verbally abused by another security guards, who
>> repeatabely swore at her, she was speaking to him in a very calm and civil
>> manner, and once again we were told to speak to phoenix.
>> >
>> > Bank of ideas.
>> >
>> > After being refused entry to the court, we decided there was no point
>> in trying to get in, clearly we were not welcome.
>> >
>> > So we went to the BOI, and upon arrival, Nafeesa kicked off with the
>> door staff  because initially she was being refused entry due to the
>> incident with Dom. I followed on shortly to find an absolute mess, the
>> place is trashed, holes in the wall from metal theft, large piles of
>> rubbish and a circle of people tripping on Acid. This attitude on New years
>> eve, whilst some of the hardest working occupiers came to revel in
>> merriment with their fellow comrades.
>> >
>> > I confronted a number of people about the state of the place,
>> regardless of whether it was new year or not, the place is not fit to allow
>> members of the public in. The image that would be percieved would be the
>> same one as what we felt. Just a haven for drug addicts and people looking
>> for a free ride. There are people who are working very hard in that
>> building, but there work is being undermined by others.
>> >
>> > I was met with a lot of verbal abuse, one guy gave me the middle finger
>> to my face, which I didn't appreciate, and lets be sure he is lucky im more
>> civil. Many people in there are not apart of occupy.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Proposal.
>> >
>> > This proposal is highly desirable by most of those who are working hard
>> and it is as follows.
>> >
>> > We decentralise the occupy movements in london. Instead of having 4
>> sites attempting to be one, we have 4 sites that are independentely run,
>> and establish a council meeting in which members from each site can meet
>> and discuss issues that concern occupy.
>> >
>> > It is a simple proposal and part of what we are trying to build.
>> >
>> > We talking about decentralising, but we are centralising ourselves.
>> >
>> > This means that each site is responsible for itself, it funds itself
>> and publishes its own press releases and GA's
>> >
>> > The council meeting will allow each site to cross reference ideas, and
>> also talk about helping each other, whether that be financially or
>> politically etc.
>> >
>> > --
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> Friendly reminder: please keep these mailing list discussions to a minimum
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