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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>I put some thoughts for discussion on Tuesday for the questionnaire on the forum. All discussion on there or at the meeting please!! <br><br>Ta<br>Moira<br><br><hr>Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 20:11:16 +0100<br>From: info@technologikal.com<br>To: katesouper@gmail.com; simon@cdesystems.co.uk<br>CC: meersbrook-house@email-lists.org<br>Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] Public Perception of FoMH and Going Ahead with Printing of Flyer<br><br>
<div class=ecxmoz-cite-prefix>Hallo!<br>
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Yes, all of the points below. I knew the minutiae of the text
would get pored over, hence why I wanted it thrashed out at the
meeting. Lets just move forward without any more regurgitation. I
may be on holiday but I'm not away from wifi so will be making the
alterations to the flyer and the design of the poster tonight and
tomorrow. I will post to this list here when the designs have
changed on the forum. Comments there please and then lets get this
signed off. Remember they need to be passed under the Head of
Carfields nose to get the approval for the mailout there. Can we
get copy to them this weekend somehow? The designs need to go to
the printer asap, preferably Monday morning so i will be handing
the files off to someone who can submit them and pay the £85 for
them. They will likely only deliver to the cardholders address.
Nick has stated he is happy to cover this. Can someone make a
decision here please. The survey was suggested almost as an after
thought by Nick, but I think this is quite an important aspect.
I'm happy to participate in suggested questions for it but I have
made the technical alterations to point the survey address towards
Nick's hosting so it is down to him to implement the survey if
that makes sense. I am on holiday so it's unlikely I'll respond
during the days but I'll be online most evenings.<br>
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Finally, if anyone has any suggestions for things to see in
Cornwall, shout up!<br>
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On 13/09/2014 17:49, kate souper wrote:<br>
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<div>Thank you Simon for your voice of experience regarding SCC.
It certainly makes sense to me.<br>
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Please can I make a few points:<br>
<ol>
<li>I feel that the disagreements on this email list really
need to be reigned in as it is public and we need to at
least appear united.</li>
<li>These public disagreements also risk making people not
want to join the group / take an active role in its future /
make them want to leave the group.</li>
<li>We keep getting bogged down in semantics instead of
deciding / actioning things. For example, at the last
steering group we endlessly discussed the wording of the
flyer, and <i>then</i> continued that discussion online <i>even</i>
<i>after</i> <i>it was finalised</i>, yet we had no
discussion at all about the survey which is arguably far
more important than which flyer words to use.</li>
<li>I think we need to be clear about what we want, and need
to focus on what needs to be done to achieve that, rather
than trying to second guess what the council and/or certain
councillors think, which appears to be constantly changing.<br>
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Obviously things should be much easier once we have a formal
structure and people have designated roles and
responsibilities within the group. <br>
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Finally, a group of us met up at SUM studios earlier today to
see one of the undeveloped buildings (Liz Martinez emailed the
whole list an invitation). Three of us decided that we need to
get the flyers printed as a matter of urgency. So we will go
ahead with printing Anthony's original flyer (he is away on
holiday), aiming for them to be ready for the facilitators
meeting on tuesday evening. We will also finalise the content
of the survey on tues, so <u><i>please do put forward your
ideas</i></u>. Maybe the place to do this would be the<br>
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Public Meeting Working Group Proposal : 2nd July 2014 thread
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within the public meeting group in the forum as it appears to
fit the thread well? (Apologies I don't know how to link into
the forum). Obviously and importantly we need to liase with
you about this too Nick, but the survey needs to be up and
running before we can distribute any flyers.<br>
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Cheers Kate<br>
<BR>
<br>
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<div class=ecxgmail_quote>On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 1:08 PM,
Simon Clement-Jones <span dir=ltr><<a href="mailto:simon@cdesystems.co.uk" target=_blank>simon@cdesystems.co.uk</a>></span>
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<p class=ecxMsoNormal><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);">The
problem is that SCC is a many headed beast and
capable of thinking, saying and sometimes even
trying to do mutually exclusive things.
</span></p>
<p class=ecxMsoNormal><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span></p>
<p class=ecxMsoNormal><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);">Part
of the council wants the building empty of SCC
staff, part of the council doesn’t, part knows
what’s going on, part thinks it knows what is
going on, part doesn’t know or care but is
prepared to speculate wildly. </span></p>
<p class=ecxMsoNormal><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span></p>
<p class=ecxMsoNormal><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);">Whether
the staff stay or go if the community demands
a role in the future of the building then that
may focus a few minds on the possible. The
status quo will not be an option at some point
in the future and FoMH need to be ready (and
united) for that moment.</span></p>
<p class=ecxMsoNormal><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span></p>
<p class=ecxMsoNormal><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);">If
you want some weasel words which hopefully
covers the facts for the flyer:-</span></p>
<p class=ecxMsoNormal><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span></i></p>
<p class=ecxMsoNormal><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);">“The
long term future of Meersbrook Hall is
uncertain.
</span></i></p>
<p class=ecxMsoNormal><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span></i></p>
<p class=ecxMsoNormal><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);">“Sheffield
City Council have no definite plans right
now, but may decide to find another use for
it or sell it off. </span></i></p>
<p class=ecxMsoNormal><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span></i></p>
<p class=ecxMsoNormal><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);">“Many
in the community hope to work with SCC to
secure the future of MH as a community
resource before any decisions are taken.
</span></i></p>
<p class=ecxMsoNormal><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);"> </span></i></p>
<p class=ecxMsoNormal><i><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);">“If
you care about the future of Meersbrook
Hall, have got ideas about what uses it
could be put to, please come along to the
meeting at…”</span></i></p>
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<p class=ecxMsoNormal><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125);">Simon</span></p>
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