<div dir="ltr">Hi Liz and David<div><br></div><div>I've kept an eye on the forum (I'm wary of posting on it for planning/campaigning as posts are public and I assume searchable/catalogued) but there was a big jump to talk of interviews, spokesperson, and a press release. Re the message to church groups etc. once it has been clarified which local groups are receiving this, can we change </div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">"raise awareness and collect the communities ideas so that we can present a strong case on behalf of our community in preparation to the SCC public consultation. " </span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"> to </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">"raise awareness and collect ideas so we can present a strong case to Sheffield Council for community control of the building" </span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">We are a long way off a public consultation being announced, ideally there won't be one - no decisions have been announced yet and the option of letting</span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"> Parks Dept stay in the building for an extended time to give us more time is a real one for SCC. We should try to bring proposals to the council ASAP, which would stop the process leading to public consultation - we shouldn't come across as expecting or waiting for a public consultation. </span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">David the comment re 'self selected' is of course potentially political - there's no easy answer to it though and just because 60 people went to a meeting doesn't mean they all had the same views. They didn't and we don't have a good record of people's views (though it was obvious what most people thought). So it begs the question - what do other local residents actually think about all this, hence my point - having put the word out locally we need a record of local opinion - then claims re strong public opposition to sale will be incontestable. That evidence could help persuade SCC to give us some time/work with us on this but could also be used if </span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"> (heaven forbid!) </span><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">things got bad and we needed to take</span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"> the Local Government Ombudsman or Judicial Review routes. From those perspectives, the views of neighbours in the immediate vicinity of the park count the most and that is where the validity of any public consultation or decision to ignore restrictive covenants would best be tested.</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">re Management Committee, I mean the one the Friends will hopefully have in the near future, not the Steering Group. </span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">Nick</span></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 August 2014 14:03, Liz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lizziemartinez2@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">lizziemartinez2@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Yes sorry I sent email and forum separately as wasn't sure of details at the time </div>
<div>Nick can u re confirm those two </div><div>( sorry to ask again! ) </div><div>Getting lost in emails!</div><div>Liz <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 19 Aug 2014, at 13:59, Joyce M Bullivant <<a href="mailto:1duckweed@live.co.uk" target="_blank">1duckweed@live.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Have seen that but wasn't sure if that was final draft plus there was no contact email to put at bottom or should I just refer them to forum?<br><br><div><hr>Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] meersbrook-house Digest, Vol 3, Issue 18<br>
From: <a href="mailto:lizziemartinez2@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">lizziemartinez2@yahoo.co.uk</a><br>Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:55:22 +0100<br>To: <a href="mailto:1duckweed@live.co.uk" target="_blank">1duckweed@live.co.uk</a><br>
<br><div>Hi Joyce </div><div>I sent the press release to the group last fri so it should be on the email you can just copy and paste</div><div>Let me know if you can't find it</div><div>Thanks</div><div>Liz<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><div class="h5"><div><br>On 19 Aug 2014, at 13:05, Joyce M Bullivant <<a href="mailto:1duckweed@live.co.uk" target="_blank">1duckweed@live.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div>
<div dir="ltr">I think as we already have made a press release this is irrelevant Nick. All I am asking for is the copy of what has already gone out so I can pass the same release to Nick Robinson, Norton Parish magazine etc. Just want to make sure all statements have uniformity. <div>
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> <br>> Can I have the exact wording for papers etc so I can distribute including what contact details I give with it to be published. Also if someone wants to do an interview who will be spokesperson and do interview? <br>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> I've been away, thought I had caught up with the emails but this last one<br>> about press releases, representatives and interviews seems a departure from<br>
> where I thought we were at. I don't think it would be good timing to do<br>> these now.<br>> <br>> I thought Liz's wording was a good basis for a leaflet in so far as it<br>> pointed out the concerns that residents have - it puts people in the<br>
> picture. 60 people turned up to that first meeting after very little<br>> publicity. My impression was that this was mostly on the back of concerns<br>> for the future of Meersbrook Hall and the possibility that SCC might sell<br>
> off this chunk of Meersbrook Park - a public asset, ignoring the<br>> restrictive covenants. I've been meaning to suggest some wording for that<br>> and will do. Leaflets- thicker ones are easier to deliver! (A5 160gsm<br>
> would be my choice) I've used Solopress for leaflet lots of times - not<br>> the cheapest, but fast and reliable. For a domain name I think<br>> <a href="http://www.meersbrookhall.org.uk" target="_blank">www.meersbrookhall.org.uk</a> should definitely be bagsied Facebook Page<br>
> rather than group - but again, maybe these decisions can wait for now and<br>> we should just focus on the meeting.<br>> <br>> To return to the 'self selected group' thing - I think Cate was perfectly<br>
> entitled to say this. I relayed this comment because it focusses attention<br>> on the need for us to put locals in the picture and to record a full and<br>> clear expression of the local reaction to the prospect of the sale of<br>
> Meersbrook Hall. There needs to be no doubt about local opinion and no<br>> chance of it being misrepresented.<br>> <br>> Once/if a public consultation is announced things would be quite progressed<br>> and it will probably be too late to change the views of decision makers.<br>
> They are weighing things up now with Meersbrook Hall and the fate of this<br>> building and twenty or so other pieces of land and property are also now<br>> being determined. We can be aiming to talk constructively now with SCC and<br>
> it's representatives, we should get as many 'Friends of Meersbrook Hall'<br>> as possible and the aims and objs they sign up to support should reject the<br>> sale to private interests of part of a public part, a public asset, given<br>
> to the people of Sheffield on condition it remains their property. On the<br>> other hand, as has been discussed, our aims and objs should project a<br>> positive vision for the future of the Hall with the Friends working<br>
> together with SCC<br>> <br>> I think the ideal scenario in the short term is we persuade SCC to postpone<br>> the Parks Dept move out of the building, to give this group a chance to get<br>> its act together and form viable proposals. I believe that should be our<br>
> target for now, and once we have a substantial membership signed up to<br>> robust aims and objectives, and a decent management committee, then we are<br>> in a stronger position to begin asking for that. This can be done<br>
> discretely without the need for local press coverage which always has the<br>> potential to stir things up where politics is concerned. We need the<br>> support of locals and that can be established by leafleting and the public<br>
> meeting. We also want the support of local Councillors and I think that is<br>> best achieved by not shouting until we need to. Also, you only get so many<br>> shots with press releases - better to wait until there is something more<br>
> news worthy and there is a management committee and a clearer direction.<br>> <br>> Nick<br>> <br>> <br>> On 19 August 2014 00:20, Joyce M Bullivant <<a href="mailto:1duckweed@live.co.uk" target="_blank">1duckweed@live.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>> > Can I have the exact wording for papers etc so I can distribute including<br>> > what contact details I give with it to be published. Also if someone wants<br>> > to do an interview who will be spokesperson and do interview?<br>
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