<p dir="ltr">David</p>
<p dir="ltr">This sub group meeting has been set to organise a public meeting / consultation session. It was felt the majority of people in attendance at the Steering Group knew of the group's existence due to Facebook or word of mouth and so the wider population of Meersbrook probably aren't aware of the future of Meersbrook House. It was agreed that before the project progresses much further a meeting was needed to publicise the group to a wider audience and to gather ideas for the future of the house. </p>
<p dir="ltr">The sub group has been set up to organise this one meeting. This public meeting date has not yet been set but will be after the school holidays. In order to plan this meeting and feed back to the steering group before the school holidays the date of the 2nd was set. The people who volunteered all felt they had skills to offer relevant to this group and that by meeting before the school holidays we would have the time to get the preparations done. </p>
<p dir="ltr">You haven't said whether you wish to contribute to this sub group or are making a general point about involvement in sub groups. I agree that a process for participation in sub/working group needs to be established. Maybe this could be added to the agenda for the 9th.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Rhian<br></p>
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<br><div><div>On 28 Jun 2014, at 13:37, Anthony Ashton <<a href="mailto:info@technologikal.com" target="_blank">info@technologikal.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">General meetings certainly, and people should be able to put themselves forward for other duties, but the numbers involved in sub groups needs to be kept down. That isn't a function of venue/space restrictions it's a function of getting something done. <br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 28 June 2014 13:17, David Garlovsky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@solar-active.com" target="_blank">david@solar-active.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Dear all<div><br></div><div>The compromise to consider:</div><div><br></div><div>Prior to any meeting a deadline is agreed for people to submit interest to attend but this would be only for meetings that may require this due to e.g. venue/space restrictions, time limit of mtg etc. From my view, we must maintain a openness that allows open attendance. </div>
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<br><div><div>On 28 Jun 2014, at 13:10, David Garlovsky <<a href="mailto:david@solar-active.com" target="_blank">david@solar-active.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">
Dear All<div><br></div><div>I left the meeting early for another meeting that was important to me. Not just for not being in attendance for when it was decided to have the meeting on 2nd but also that I do not feel any meeting should be restricted. Any restriction makes it ‘undemocratic' and gets into issues that we already have with the SCC on having secret meetings. I fully do not agree with Kaktus view, yet willing to consider some compromise that I will think about coming up with of course open to anyone that can think of a compromise. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div><br></div><div>David</div><div><br></div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On 28 Jun 2014, at 12:54, kaktusandnome leach <<a href="mailto:kaktus_nome@hotmail.com" target="_blank">kaktus_nome@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">
<div><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div>I propose that the participants should be restricted to the nine</div><div>who were accepted at the last meeting, this seems to be the</div><div>most democratic way of doing things. Some clearly will not</div>
<div>be able to make it so the result will be similar to Moira's proposal.</div><div>which I think makes sense. </div><div>Regards,</div><div>Kaktus<br><br><div><hr>Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:41:13 +0100<br>From: <a href="mailto:rhian@eggplanet.co.uk" target="_blank">rhian@eggplanet.co.uk</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:meersbrook-house@email-lists.org" target="_blank">meersbrook-house@email-lists.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers<br><br><div>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: "Rhiannon Thomas" <<a href="mailto:rhian@eggplanet.co.uk" target="_blank">rhian@eggplanet.co.uk</a>><br>Date: 26 Jun 2014 18:23<br>Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] Fwd: RE: public meeting organisers<br>
To: "Moira Walker" <<a href="mailto:moira_walker@hotmail.com" target="_blank">moira_walker@hotmail.com</a>><br>Cc: <br><br><p dir="ltr">From what I can remember, and now that Kate can't make it I think there will be 6 people next week, though I'd recall all the names. I can confirm that I am intending to attend. </p>
<p dir="ltr">I think your skills will be v. useful at this point. </p><p dir="ltr">Rhian </p>
<div>On 26 Jun 2014 17:48, "Moira Walker" <<a href="mailto:moira_walker@hotmail.com" target="_blank">moira_walker@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">Can we confirm how many people are attending this 'small working group' meeting. I don't think it will work with more than 6 so I will bow out if there are too many. I think its really hard to get business done and not just have an (albeit interesting) discussion when there are lots of interested people involved. I have lots of skills linked to public engagement, consultation (including previous consultation results), funding bids and constitution development which i am happy to throw into the mix when needed. <br>
thanks!<br>Moira <br> <br><div><hr>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:51:50 +0100<br>From: <a href="mailto:rhian@eggplanet.co.uk" target="_blank">rhian@eggplanet.co.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:meersbrook-house@email-lists.org" target="_blank">meersbrook-house@email-lists.org</a><br>
Subject: [meersbrook-house] Fwd: RE: public meeting organisers<br><br><div>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: "Rhiannon Thomas" <<a href="mailto:rhian@eggplanet.co.uk" target="_blank">rhian@eggplanet.co.uk</a>><br>
Date: 26 Jun 2014 12:50<br>Subject: RE: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers<br>
To: "kaktusandnome leach" <<a href="mailto:kaktus_nome@hotmail.com" target="_blank">kaktus_nome@hotmail.com</a>><br>Cc: <br><br><p dir="ltr">I have booked a couple of tables in the 'small snug' for next Wednesday (in my name). They can turn off the speakers in that part, if we request that when we get there. </p>
<p dir="ltr">There is a pub quiz starting at 9.30 and there are regulars who use this space, but I said we'd be done by 9, I thought it would help keep us focused! </p><p dir="ltr">Rhian</p>
<div>On 25 Jun 2014 09:39, "kaktusandnome leach" <<a href="mailto:kaktus_nome@hotmail.com" target="_blank">kaktus_nome@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote style="padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
<div><div dir="ltr">Hi All,<div>If we are to meet in the White Lion we have to find a corner without music</div><div>as I am profoundly deaf and background noise more or less rules me out.</div><div>Kaktus<br><br><div><hr>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:35:50 +0100<br>From: <a href="mailto:rhian@eggplanet.co.uk" target="_blank">rhian@eggplanet.co.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:laura@b4wd.org.uk" target="_blank">laura@b4wd.org.uk</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:meersbrook-house@email-lists.org" target="_blank">meersbrook-house@email-lists.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers<br><br><p dir="ltr">Hi Laura, </p><p dir="ltr">That too was my understanding of the purpose of the meeting in the 2nd, but agree that all of Rob's points should be discussed on the 9th.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Happy for you to put the agenda together - thanks for offering. </p><p dir="ltr">See you in White Lion next week. </p><p dir="ltr">Rhian</p>
<div>On 19 Jun 2014 21:36, "Laura Holmes" <<a href="mailto:laura@b4wd.org.uk" target="_blank">laura@b4wd.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote style="padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
<div lang="EN-GB"><div><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Hi Rob,<u></u><u></u></span><br>
<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span><br><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">These sound like really important items for discussion at the full steering group meeting on the 9<sup>th</sup>. My understanding of the meeting on the 2<sup>nd</sup> is that it is to talk about planning the public meeting in September so that we can make the best use of everyone’s time and gather as much info as possible – so am thinking the agenda will be limited to things like, aims of the public meeting and the activities and discussions that are needed to allow everyone to have their say.<u></u><u></u></span><br>
<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span><br><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span><br>
<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Laura.<u></u><u></u></span><br><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span><br>
<div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US"> Rob Stephens [mailto:<a href="mailto:rob.stephens2@btinternet.com" target="_blank">rob.stephens2@btinternet.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 June 2014 21:22<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:laura@b4wd.org.uk" target="_blank">laura@b4wd.org.uk</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <<a href="mailto:meersbrook-house@email-lists.org" target="_blank">meersbrook-house@email-lists.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers<u></u><u></u></span><br></div></div><u></u> <u></u><br><div>Hi<u></u><u></u><br></div><div><u></u> <u></u><br>
</div><div>Happy to meet in the pub on this occasion, provided we aren't excluding anyone.<u></u><u></u><br></div><div><u></u> <u></u><br></div><div>Can I suggest a couple of items for the agenda?<u></u><u></u><br>
</div><div>1. Focus of the group? Is it to secure a useable and accessible community building for the whole community, situated in the park or is it about about preserving an old building? It maybe feasible to do both?<u></u><u></u><br>
</div><div>2. Structure of the group - there needs to be a management/executive committee formed with functions and decision making powers delegated to it by the steering committee. It's not feasible to manage this through group meetings of 20-25 people.<u></u><u></u><br>
</div><div>3. Anyone taking on a role I.e chairing the steering committee should be elected to that role by the rest of the group.<u></u><u></u><br></div><div><u></u> <u></u><br></div>
<div>Thanks<u></u><u></u><br></div><div>Rob<u></u><u></u><br></div><div><br>On 19 Jun 2014, at 20:56, "Laura Holmes" <<a href="mailto:laura@b4wd.org.uk" target="_blank">laura@b4wd.org.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u><br>
</div><blockquote><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Happy to go with Moira’s suggestion of meeting in the White Lion (just to avoid confusion, this is the meeting of the smaller working group on Weds 2<sup>nd</sup> July, not the full steering group meeting on the 9th).</span><u></u><u></u><br>
<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Would be willing to put an agenda together and chair this meeting if everyone else who has volunteered for this group is happy for me to do so?</span><u></u><u></u><br>
<span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Cheers,</span><u></u><u></u><br><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Laura</span><u></u><u></u><br>
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<b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US"> kaktusandnome leach [<a href="mailto:kaktus_nome@hotmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:kaktus_nome@hotmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 June 2014 12:25<br><b>To:</b> Laura Holmes<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers</span><u></u><u></u><br></div></div> <u></u><u></u><br><div>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I think a change of venue is a great idea, it gets a bit hectic at the pavilion.</span><u></u><u></u><br><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Any suggestions about a venue? We could meet at the walled garden</span><u></u><u></u><br>
</div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">as it is certainly peaceful there and there is a choice of being indoors or</span><u></u><u></u><br></div><div>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">outdoors. I would also be happy in a pub.</span><u></u><u></u><br></div><div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Kaktus</span><u></u><u></u><br>
<div><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> From: </span><a href="mailto:laura@b4wd.org.uk" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">laura@b4wd.org.uk</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><br>
> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:17:41 +0100<br>> To: </span><a href="mailto:meersbrook-house@email-lists.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">meersbrook-house@email-lists...org</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><br>
> Subject: Re: [meersbrook-house] public meeting organisers<br>> <br>> Hi all,<br>> <br>> Agree that our small working group meeting on the 2nd would be fine to take place in the pub, with the full steering group meeting taking place in the Pavilion as normal on the 9th.<br>
> <br>> Cheers,<br>> Laura<br>> <br>> ~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~<br>> Laura Holmes <a href="tel:07736%20844109" value="+447736844109" target="_blank">07736 844109</a><br>> </span><a href="mailto:laura@b4wd.org.uk" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">laura@b4wd.org.uk</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><br>
> </span><a href="mailto:laura@holmesadmin.co.uk" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">laura@holmesadmin.co.uk</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><br>
> <br>> On 19 Jun 2014, at 10:53, Chris <</span><a href="mailto:chris@meersbrook.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">chris@meersbrook.net</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> wrote:<br>
> <br>> > Hi<br>> > <br>> > On Thu 19-Jun-2014 at 10:44:51AM +0100, David Garlovsky wrote:<br>> >> <br>> >> If skills list was created last night, who do I contact to add my<br>> >> skills to the list?<br>
> > <br>> > It wasn't.<br>> > <br>> >> What is date of next meeting?<br>> > <br>> > There is a small meeting to discuss the public meeting agenda in two<br>> > weeks time, Wednesday 2nd July, and then the next full committee meeting<br>
> > is on Wednesday 9th July, 7:30pm in the Pavilion.<br>> > <br>> > All the best<br>> > <br>> > Chris<br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > meersbrook-house mailing list<br>
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